How to Increase Free T3 Naturally: 8 Simple Treatments That Work
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How to Increase Free T3 Without Thyroid Medication

Your T3 level is probably the single most important measure of thyroid function, more important than even the TSH.

Why?

Because it represents the amount of active thyroid hormone in your body.

The more of it you have, the better you will feel.

This then begs the question:

Can you personally do anything to influence your T3 level?

Absolutely.

And today we are going to talk about how to do just that with the use of some natural treatments.

Let’s jump in:

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#1. Take Zinc and Selenium

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There are a ton of different vitamins and minerals that your body needs for optimal thyroid function but few are more important for T3 than zinc and selenium.

In a world where the soil is depleted of nutrients (1) and where we often eat unhealthy and processed foods (2), there’s a very high chance your diet isn’t providing enough of either.

And the research supports this.

According to the data, approximately 20-40% of hypothyroid patients are deficient in zinc and 30-50% are deficient in selenium.

This means that about 4 out of 10 thyroid patients reading this fall into one or both of these groups.

And that’s exactly why we are talking about them today.

Both of these essential minerals act as cofactors for the enzymes that your body uses to convert T4 thyroid hormone into T3 thyroid hormone (3).

If you are deficient in either then these enzymes still work, but they work less efficiently.

In a practical sense, what that means for you is that you will be creating less than T3 than you would otherwise.

How big of an impact do they have on your T3 level?

That depends on the person, but it can range from mild to severe.

To illustrate this fact, we can look at some studies.

One in particular looked at overweight women with hypothyroidism (4) and found that replacing low zinc not only increased free T3 levels but also helped reduce TSH.

The only catch here is that in order to see these pro-thyroid benefits when taking zinc, you need to be deficient.

In other words, taking them when you aren’t may not provide the boost to T3 seen in this study.

But given that such a high percentage of hypothyroid patients are deficient in them, as we already discussed, the chances are high that you will see some benefit if you do.

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If you determine that you’d like to try one or both of these minerals, here’s what you need to know:

Not all forms of zinc and selenium are ideal for thyroid patients and not all supplements are dosed appropriately.

As someone with a thyroid problem, here’s what you want to look for:

  • Zinc – Look for zinc as zinc chelate, zinc monomethionine, zinc gluconate, zinc acetate, or zinc citrate. Avoid all other forms as they are inferior to those just listed. As far as dosing is concerned, you only need 5-15 mg in any given serving as higher doses tend to cause GI distress and will not be absorbed anyway.
  • Selenium – Look for selenium as selenomethionine or selenium glycinate complex. As far as dosing is concerned, you won’t need more than 50 to 150 mcg per serving. Some people will advise thyroid patients to use higher doses (as high as 400 to 500 mcg per day) but these higher doses increase your risk of selenium toxicity and provide diminishing returns.

And by the way, if you’re going to take one, you might as well take the other given that deficiencies often coexist with one another.

For that reason, this is my recommended supplement for thyroid patients.

It comes with both ingredients and has the right formulation and dose of each.

#2. Improve Your Gut Health

As a thyroid patient, you should care about your gut health for one important reason:

Approximately 20% of T4 to T3 conversion occurs there (5).

This means if you have intestinal problems or symptoms your ability to create T3 will be impaired.

This impairment may not be as significant as what happens if you are deficient in zinc or selenium, but 20% is nothing to scoff at either.

And given that your thyroid has a direct impact on gut health, through its impact on stomach acid (6) and peristalsis (7), there’s a very high chance that you are not creating as much T3 there as you should be.

This means that improving your gut health is one quick way to potentially increase your T3 level by a significant margin.

But how do you do that?

There are many ways but my preferred method is through your diet.

If you follow my dietary recommendations for improving thyroid function then you will not only improve your gut health, but you will also improve your thyroid at the same time.

This strategy works for most people because as your gut heals your thyroid function will increase which will further improve your gut health which will then further increase thyroid function. And so on and so on.

But there will be some people who need more targeted gut health treatments like the use of probiotics, prebiotics, antifungals, and even antibiotics.

No matter what, though, changing your diet will improve your gut health and is always the first step.

#3. Reduce Reverse T3

In case this is the first time you’re hearing about reverse T3, let me fill you in on the basics:

Reverse T3 is an anti-thyroid metabolite that competes with T3 (8).

The more reverse T3 you have in your body the less active your free T3 will be.

So if you want to banish your thyroid symptoms, you want your free T3 to be as high as possible and your reverse T3 to be as low as possible.

For this reason, it’s important to not only optimize your free T3, but your reverse T3 as well.

For most people, this just means keeping an eye on your reverse T3 level with some simple blood tests.

While this test is simple to interpret, it can be difficult to obtain as most physicians are unaware that it even exists.

So you will most likely need to ask for it by name.

As far as interpretation goes, you want your reverse T3 level to be less than 15 ng/dL.

Anything higher is a very likely indicator that your body is preferentially creating reverse T3 instead of T3.

The good news is you can push down that reverse T3 level with some specific treatments including:

  • The use of T3-only medications like liothyronine or Cytomel – Nothing will push down your reverse T3 faster than the use of these medications. While they are the most effective treatment, they are also the most difficult to get, especially in any meaningful dose. But if you have access to them, they are definitely the way to go.
  • The use of intermediate-intensity exercise – Research shows that you can improve your T3 level by exercising at the right intensity. If the intensity is too high, it can actually hurt your T3 and if it’s too low, it just won’t have any impact at all. For optimal T3 function, exercise that pushes your heart rate to 50-70% of the maximum is ideal.
  • And eating enough calories – Calorie restriction is a powerful signal to the body to create more reverse T3 but you can fight this by simply eating enough. It sounds simple but so many thyroid patients starve themselves in an effort to lose weight which, unfortunately, only serves to make their thyroid worse in the long run.

#4. Check Your Liver

Remember when I told you that 20% of your thyroid is activated and converted in the gut?

Well, even more is converted in your liver. And I mean a lot more.

Some estimates put it as high as 60% (9).

This makes your liver the most important organ for ensuring optimal T3.

And, unfortunately, liver dysfunction is very common among thyroid patients.

Research indicates that approximately 20-50% of hypothyroid patients have some level of liver dysfunction from non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

Compared to the average population, which is set around 25-30%, this is up to 20% higher, depending on which study you look at.

And this dysfunction in liver health absolutely impacts thyroid health!

What makes this condition even more sinister is that it often goes undiagnosed until there is significant liver damage.

This means there’s a very high chance that you are walking around with some level of fatty liver without realizing it.

One of the easiest ways to test for this is with simple liver function tests.

definition of liver function tests

These tests assess the level of liver enzymes in your blood which can be used as a marker of overall liver health.

As a thyroid patient, it’s critical to keep an eye on your liver, just like you would keep an eye on your thyroid.

So the next time you get your thyroid tested, make sure your doctor is also testing your liver.

The two tests you want to get are AST and ALT. For optimal T3 status, you want both of these values to be less than 20.

If you find that your liver function tests are even slightly elevated then you will need further evaluation to find the cause.

For most thyroid patients, the underlying cause will be insulin resistance.

And just like gut health, changing your diet to improve your thyroid will also improve your insulin status which will almost always improve your liver.

To give you an idea of just how important this one is, you should know that optimizing your liver function will probably result in the highest increase in T3 compared to any other therapy we’ve discussed so far.

#5. Check Your Iron & Ferritin

Iron deficiency is a problem that you may not connect to your T3 level, but it’s more important than you probably realize.

Inside your thyroid, the enzyme thyroid peroxidase uses iron as a cofactor to create both T4 and T3.

If you don’t have enough iron then the creation of both hormones will be compromised.

While it is true that iron deficiency is not as common as some of the other problems we’ve discussed so far, it’s still very important because iron deficiency is often missed by doctors and can cause confusion when someone is trying to optimize their thyroid.

To make matters worse, you don’t need to be grossly deficient in iron for it to impact your thyroid.

So it may very well be the case that you are walking around with a “low-normal” iron level that is negatively impacting your T3.

You can test for this by looking at both your serum iron level as well as your ferritin level.

Your serum iron tells you how much iron is in your blood while your ferritin is a marker of iron storage in the body.

A common scenario that I see among thyroid patients is one where their serum iron level is normal but their serum ferritin is low.

But just having a low ferritin is enough to compromise T3 and should be treated.

For optimal T3, you want your ferritin to be in the range of 40-60 ng/mL (10).

If either are low, you can replace them with the use of over-the-counter iron-containing supplements.

But a word of warning:

Do not take iron unless you need it! Always test first as taking too much iron can make your thyroid worse and cause other problems.

#6. Take an Adaptogen

Another way to improve your T3 status is through the use of adrenal adaptogens.

These natural botanical-based compounds help your body adapt to and manage stress.

And as far as your thyroid is concerned, stress is a killer of T3 levels.

The more stress you are under the more cortisol will be released from your adrenal glands.

If released in excess amounts, as in times of chronic stress, cortisol will reduce T3 levels by blunting T4 to T3 conversion (11).

Adrenal adaptogens like rhodiola, ashwagandha, and maca root, fight this effect by normalizing cortisol.

A little bit of stress is actually healthy, but you can tell if your stress is starting to impact your T3 level because you’ll experience these symptoms:

  • Fatigue even after a good night’s rest
  • The sensation of feeling wired but tired
  • Reliance upon caffeine and sugar as a way to temporarily boost your energy
  • And both high and low energy at the wrong times of the day

If you have these symptoms then it’s probably time to consider taking an adaptogen.

Each adaptogen has a slightly different benefit on top of its ability to regulate cortisol so you can match the adaptogen to your specific needs.

For instance, maca root will help with energy but also sex hormones and libido.

So if you have low energy and a low sex drive, this is probably your best option.

Ashwagandha, on the other hand, is great for both energy and weight loss.

So if you need more energy and you’re overweight, this is probably your best option.

Rhodiola, another adaptogen, will help with energy and mood.

So if you have low energy and you’re feeling depressed or anxious, this is a great option.

#7. Take Iodine

Iodine intake seems to always be controversial, but it doesn’t have to be.

Here’s what we know about iodine and T3:

Because iodine forms an essential component of the T3 hormone, iodine deficiency impairs its production.

In terms of magnitude, this one is huge.

Your body can get by with a suboptimal level of zinc and selenium, you just might feel a little run down.

But if you don’t have enough iodine, you will experience huge problems.

Whether it’s a physical change to the size of your thyroid gland (goiter) or a gross decline in thyroid hormone production (iodine-induced hypothyroidism), iodine deficiency isn’t going unnoticed.

So the real question is less about whether or not iodine is important for T3 levels and more about whether or not you need more of it.

Unfortunately, that data is about as clear as mud (12).

So instead of diving into the controversies of iodine intake, here’s what I can tell you:

Research has shown that iodine intake in the range of 150 mcg to 300 mcg per day is quite safe.

And taking iodine in this range will ensure that your thyroid has what it needs to create enough T3 without increasing your risk of iodine-induced thyroid problems like autoimmune thyroid disease.

Some people feel better when taking more but I would caution against this approach as the pros do not outweigh the risks.

Likewise, minimizing your intake of iodine may improve your thyroid function if you were previously taking too much, but that makes the big assumption that you were overconsuming it which may or may not be true.

So far maximizing the benefits while minimizing the risks, stick to 150-300 mcg per day.

The best way to do this is through supplementation because iodine concentration in foods can vary dramatically.

If you want to get exactly the amount of iodine you need then check out this supplement.

When Should You Use T3 Medication?

What if you’ve tried these therapies before and they haven’t worked?

What are you supposed to do then?

If you’ve reached this point then it may be time to consider the use of T3 thyroid-containing medication.

Up until this point, we’ve talked about a whole bunch of natural treatments that can help your thyroid produce more T3 on its own.

But there’s another way to get T3:

Take more of that thyroid hormone directly.

T3 is found in several thyroid prescription medications including:

  • Cytomel & Liothyronine – These medications are considered T3-only and do not contain T4. Liothyronine is considered the generic and Cytomel is considered the brand name.
  • Compounded Sustained Release T3 – This formulation of T3 is the only sustained-release version of T3 and is only available through a compounding pharmacy.
  • And NDT formulations (Armour Thyroid & NP Thyroid) – NDT formulations contain a combination of T4 and T3 thyroid hormones.

Some people get angry because I spend so much time talking about natural therapies instead of the prescription option but there’s a reason for it:

The natural option is always preferred because it’s far better to support the natural production of T3 than it is to take exogenous T3.

It’s not that taking T3-containing medications is harmful, but, like any medication, they do carry risks, they can be difficult to obtain, and they can be expensive.

So why wouldn’t you at least try the natural option first before entertaining the prescription route?

That’s my philosophy, but you can choose whatever option suits you best.

By the way, if you are someone who likes the idea of taking control of your thyroid through natural treatments then I’d recommend checking out this article next.

Scientific References

#1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14653505

#2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3403271/

#3. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11215512/

#4. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25758370/

#5. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0024320589901793

#6. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7435122

#7. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2833301/

#8. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5075641/

#9. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6313798

#10. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12463104/

#11. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8109250/

#12. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9816468/


Comments

188 responses to “How to Increase Free T3 Without Thyroid Medication”

  1. Thank so much for sharing this information. I read an article you wrote last week on iodine and selenium supplementation. I am iodine deficient but when I supplemented, within a few days was then taking too much and my thyroid was inflamed. The two together work marvelously. My daughter checks the dose daily through kinesiology and it is making a big difference. Thank you so much!

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hey Jenny,

      You are very welcome! I’m glad it worked out for you! Supplementing with iodine can be tricky, and I like to do it – it just needs to be done cautiously. And it sounds like you are in good hands 🙂

      Let me know if you have any other questions.

  2. Lynne Tulip Avatar
    Lynne Tulip

    Hi ~ I was diagnosed with under active thyroid in 2013 and put on levothyroxine. In the last 18month my symptoms have become significantly worse. I have chronic groin/pelvic pain which has changed me from an extremely fit active slim 53 year old to an overweight inactive jobless 56year old. I paid for a thyroid scan last week (due to regular choking episodes) and it was confirmed that I had hashimotos (I was told by the radiologist that my thyroid was shrivelled ~ and had I heard of Graves or hashimotos ) my most recent bloods came back saying I was now suffering from hyperthyroidism and it was recommended that I reduce my levothyroxine to 100 from 125 (I haven’t done this yet as I think I am on the hashimotos roller coaster of hypo/ hyper) I have asked to see a endocrinologist and will take all that I have read from your Facebook page and hope he will listen. I was diagnosed with osteitis publis after an MRI scan but I now think the chronic pain which stops me from even walking very far (hence the job loss) could actually be due to Hashimotos. My main request will be for desiccated thyroid to be added to my regime. Thank you for all the information you have provided. You have been a life line and I intended to knock down as many doors as possible in the hope that our great NHS will listen and react accordingly. I will keep you posted re my journey.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hey Lynne,

      I would definitely dig a little deeper into the “hyperthyroid” component. With a shriveled up thyroid from years of damage due to autoimmunity, it’s unlikely that you are suddenly producing large amounts of T3 hormone causing hyperthyroidism. It’s far more likely that your TSH is suppressed from the T4 dosing, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you are “hyperthyroid”.

      NDT may improve your symptoms, but you would also benefit from extensive blood testing and repletion of any and all nutritional deficiencies.

      Good luck and keep me posted!

    2. Hi,

      I also was diagnosed with hypothyroidism in 2013 and since then was increased on levotheroxine from .25mg to .125 mg. No success. Then I heard about LDN!!! Low Dose Nalterxone, it is not priscribed by any doctor, but digged dip and found one who did. Got my medication on June 15, 2017, I feel improvement.
      Here is the website with more info: http://www.ldninfo.org

      If you wish to join the group, email me and I will provide you with the group info.

      Regards,
      AG

      1. I just read your reply and wondered how you are doing on the LDN so far with treatment for hypothyroid.

    3. Hi Lynne,
      I was reading your comment and what you were going through with your pelvic bone is what I’m going through now. I know this post is now 5 yrs old and I’m hoping you got the right treatment and doing much better. Please update. Thanks

  3. Honora Renwick Avatar
    Honora Renwick

    Great information and diagrams. Very grateful for this. I’m a bit puzzled though when the text above refers to “Get on T3 only medication (Like liothyronine or NDT)”. My understanding is that NDT contains T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    Thanks.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hey Honora,

      You are correct, the sentence should say “Get on medication containing T3”. Liothyronine is a T3 only medication, whereas NDT contains all of the other components you mentioned including T4 AND T3. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

      1. Honora Avatar
        Honora

        Cheers.

      2. Terri Avatar
        Terri

        Is it correct that NDT, like Armour, while it contains T3, it may not be enough and it would still be beneficial to supplement with Cytomel? Do you have any thoughts on ordering Liothyronine online if doctor won’t prescribe?

        1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
          Dr. Westin Childs

          Hey Terri,

          Yes many of my patients are on a combination of T3 + NDT or T3 alone. I don’t recommend using liothyronine without the assistance of a Doctor, you don’t know what you are getting and too much T3 can be dangerous.

          1. Other than having T3 levels checked, how else do you know if you are having too much? I have low T3 2.3 (2.4-4.3 range) and a long history of hashimotos. I am doing every diet and exercise change to improve my health and my doc won’t increase my T3 even though its below normal. Is there really danger in increasing it? I am a healthy 44 year old, on 1.25 grains of NDT and just 5mcg of T3. Shouldn’t I increase my dose until my T3 comes up? Thank you!

          2. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
            Dr. Westin Childs

            Hi Sarah,

            You will have symptoms if you have too much.

  4. Dr. Westin Childs,
    An impressive Website !
    Thanks, Anne

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hey Anne,

      Thank you and I’m glad you like it!

      1. Krisztina Aranyi Avatar
        Krisztina Aranyi

        Hi Dr Child,

        You are my teacher! Thank you very much for this site and information,it is very usefull.

        You are a very professional and the BEST thyroid doctor!!

        I live in UK ( originally from Hungary) but without your knowledge I didn`t find the right doctor in UK how have correctly treat me, because I need the power and knowledge about the RT£ issue and hashimoto.

        Thank you again,
        Krisztina Aranyi

        1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
          Dr. Westin Childs

          No problem and I’m glad this information has helped you!

  5. Christina Avatar
    Christina

    Hi Dr Childs, what I’ve read from your sight and blogs makes alot of sense! My Dr is brilliant and we have been working together for at least 3 years trying to tweek my thyroid & Hashimotos. She has me on20mcg T3 and 70mg of thyroid extract which has put my TSH, T3 & T4 in the normal range. However every now and then my thyroid goes out of Whack and it’s back to playing with dosages to get it right.

    I am a coeliac and have 2 of the C strain MTFHR Gene, with high estrogen levels so I take a progesterone troche (had a hystorectomy @ 34 due to a begnin tumor. I am seeing a naturopath and she had me do a hair strand test that shows what triggers inflamation for me and she has been helping me with adrenal fatigue and liver tone.

    She has recomended going Paleo but I struggle with red meat, I’m ok with small amounts of chicken and fish even though my blood type is o positive. I eat alot of salads and vegies, little fruit. My Dr says my diet is brilliant but I can’t seem to shift weight! I only need to lose 6-10kg and occasionally when the plumbing is working well I shift 2kgs and then it suprisingly comes back! Grr!

    I kind of feel like I’ve hit a wall as I’m doing what’s recommended and I seem to progress and then it all goes pear shape and I can’t work out why? Any other suggestions?

    Keep up the good work in helping people understand what’s happening to them and why. 🙂

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hey Christina,

      Losing weight is about balancing your hormones. You need to have someone look at your insulin and leptin levels. In addition, you should check your basal body temperature and resting pulse to see if your thyroid is actually optimized. Just because your TSH is in the normal range does not mean that your thyroid is “normal”.

      You can look at these posts for more information about balancing hormones with your thyroid:
      http://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/lose-weight-hashimotos/
      http://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/leptin-resistance-thyroid-resistance/
      http://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/weight-loss-hypothyroidism-success/

  6. Kimberly Avatar
    Kimberly

    The first time I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism was 27 years ago. After being placed on medication for a short period of time, it supposedly resolved. In 2013, I was again diagnosed with hypothyroidism. It took until mid 2015 to get my level within a “normal” range. Only a tsh level was ever drawn throughout the year. In January, my level was abnormal again, tsh only. Since I started receiving your insightful information, I decided to give it to my PA at my endocrinologist. I’m hoping she will work with me. I am diagnosed celiac disease, so I eat a healthy diet, no dairy products, and already take the supplements you recommend. What complicates my situation is that I am in chronic pain everyday. These are other conditions not being adequately managed due to severe allergies to the medications normally given. Due to this, they tell me to “deal with it”. Unfortunately, when you’re dealing with several conditions, it becomes debilitating. I’ve gained 60 pounds in two years, gone from being very active nd healthy to barely able to do anything, decreased appetite. To complicate matters, none of my doctor’s understand celiac disease, including my primary doctor. Do you have any suggestions?

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hey Kimberly,

      I don’t recommend trying to get treatment in the insurance model, 99.9% of the time you will just be ignored – even if you give them information. Endo’s and most doctors aren’t interested in being educated by patients. The other big issue is that even if you ask for the right tests, they won’t know how to interpret them or treat you based on the results. I would recommend looking for a functional medicine doctor near you.

      In regards to your other issues you can take a look at these articles, and they may very well be related to your thyroid:
      http://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hypothyroidism-chronic-pain/
      http://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/lose-weight-hashimotos/

  7. Thank you for this information! I’m so glad to see a Dr who is truly into helping people be their best.
    I have had labs run for most of the things you stated but as you have also stated I received the results in “your labs were normal” form without any levels showing. Very frustrating!!

    I would love to get on top of my Hashimoto’s and feel better again. My brain wants to go go go and my body says no no no. I do know I am insulin resistance and have adrenal fatigue on top of Hashi’s. Could I just start taking selinium and iron without a test? Or is that dangerous?

    I am currently taking 48.75 mg of NatureThroid. I have been taking that dose for 2 weeks now and my throat seems to feel tight. Could be allergies as those are bad right now too. 3 years ago I was on 80mcg of Synthroid and 10mcg of Cytomel which the Synthroid made me feel horrible.
    I’m really not sure where to go from here except that I want to feel better!!! I am so tired of being so extremely tired!!

    Thanks so much! I would drive the miles just for you to be my Dr!! LOL! Do you have any good recommendations for the Ft Worth TX area?

    Marci Pruitt.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Marci,

      You are welcome! You can try selenium, but I wouldn’t recommend taking iron without lab testing as too much can be toxic to the body. The combination of cytomel + synthroid can work for some people, but the T3 dose needs to be high enough.

      Unfortunately I don’t know any doctors in the ft worth area – I am sorry!

  8. I had a thyroidectomy last week. I’m talking calcium carbonate now but still the tingling in my hands doesn’t go away. I also take vit D3.
    I have no energy and my stomach is very upset so I can’t eat. At this moment, I regret the surgery (I had Graves).
    Would it be beneficial for me to take selenium, perhaps magnesium to help with the muscle weakness and fatigue? Thanks.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Kim,

      They probably won’t hurt but I don’t think they will help either. You need to fix your calcium levels first and manage your thyroid medication – both are more likely causing your symptoms.

  9. Alyssa Avatar
    Alyssa

    I tried Cytomel with low amounts of Naturethroid and I had too much heart palpatiation. So my doc keeps on increasing natuthroid.
    I am now taking 1 97.5 in morning, and 1 97.5 in late afternoon. I take selenium, zinc, Vit D, raw adrenal from standard process, magnesium at night. My Reverse T3 is 11.9, Free T3 is 2.8. My Free T4 is .91. I know my Free T3 should be around 3.8 and Free T4 shoudl be 1.3.. seems that even though they keep slowly increasing my meds nothing really works. I am really afraid to try cytomel again and I had full panic attacks.. Its been a rollercoaster since 2011 diagnosis of Hashimotos. Large nodule on thyroid, however, it is benign. Thyroid is shrivled as well. gluten free, dairy free, grain free most of the time until I just want to have corn taco ! LOL. any ideas ??

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Alyssa,

      You need to look at other hormones to see if they are contributing to your issues.

  10. I recently read this article and purchased several of the recommended supplements. I am trying to Kickstart my thyroid naturally before trying the medication route. I am been suffering with constant fatigue, foggy memory and trouble losing weight. I am a 37 year old female and my labs show:
    TSH = 2.3
    FREE T3 = 2.8
    FREE T4 = 1.12
    My question is when should I take the supplments and should I follow the dose recommend on the bottle. I purchased:
    DSF Formula – Nutri-West
    Gastrointestinal Support
    Zinc 30
    Selenium
    Super Enzymes
    All products were linked in the article above. Thank you for your help!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Robin,

      It really depends on your symptoms and other lab tests (not just your thyroid), it really requires a comprehensive look at everything.

      1. OK, I guess I will just follow the instructions on the bottles.

        1. Hey Robin!

          I know your comment is over a year old, but I thought I’d just ask, how are you doing? How is your thyroid, energy levels, ability to lose weight, brain fog? I was struck by your comment because our situations are very similar. I am almost 36 years old. Same symptoms as you. I just had Thyroid blood work done. My Free T3 is 2.9, my Free T4 is 1.1, so very similar to yours. Though my TSH came back as 1.1. My Total T3 is 93. From the research I’ve done, it seems my T4 – T3 is not converting well, which led me to this article . Super helpful info!!!! I have my list of supplements I’ll be starting. Anyway, just thought I’d reach out. I hope you are healing and thriving!

          Jenny

          1. LaShell Avatar
            LaShell

            Hi Jenny, I know it’s been a year since you posted your comment, but I was wondering how you were doing and if you could tell me what hormone medications you are taking, and what supplements you are using as well, and how they worked for you. I am hypo. and have been taking just 25mcg. of Synthroid for about 4 months (it took me several months to work up to that amount). Everything was going fine and then I began having heart flutters and ringing in my ears. My doctor suggested increasing my dosage, but that only made me anxious and jittery and did nothing for my palpitations or the ringing in my ears. I started supplementing with Selenium a few days ago and am waiting to see if this helps. I’m curious what you’re taking and how it’s working for you.
            Hope all is well.

            Thank you so much,

            LaShell

          2. Clare Avatar
            Clare

            Hi Lashell

            I had the same symptoms as you, ringing in ears and heart flutters, I was diagnosed with very low iron. Hope this helps.

  11. Hi there doc. I am in NZ and understanding of thyroid issues here seems to be fairly stone-age (at least among conventional medicine, funny that) compared to alt medicine. I am currently treating leaky gut (only been 1 week so far). I had suspected hypothyroid and convinced my doc to give me tests. Symptoms are fairly mild but classic (however with a strong asthmatic reaction) – this is a chronic condition triggered whenever I live somewhere with chlorinated water).

    TSH levels are 3.23mU/L, FT4 is 206 ng/dL (16.3 pmol/L) and FT3 is 64 ng/dL (4.9 pmol/L – I hope I got the US conversions right!). For me the high TSH means my body is asking for more energy; there is a lot of T4 however my thyroid is struggling to convert this to usable T3 for energy.

    My Ferritin level is 135 ng/ml (normal) and my cholesterol isn’t great (I am quite skinny): total 149 ng/dl; HDL 36 ng/dl; HDL ratio 121 ng/dl; Random triglycerides 45 ng/dl and LDL 93 ng/dl. For me these readings are indicative of underactive thyroid. Also, CRP is at “less than 3” on a scale 0-5.

    Anyway I am taking 1 x Piping rock Ultra Thyroid complex per day. Can I increase to 2 x per day? I see this contains desiccated thyroid and I think I could do with trying to boost T3 levels if possible?

    Many thanks!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Simon,

      I’m not familiar with that supplement so I can’t really give you advice or recommendations.

  12. Hi Dr. Childs!
    I wanted to say how much I appreciate your online articles on thyroid health. I am a thyroid cancer survivor, so I have to monitor my T4, free T3 levels often. My free T3 is typically low, and so I am taking NDT. However, I continue to have fatigue and weight gain.

    I know that iron is very important for the T4 to T3 conversion, I wanted to ask you about a recent iron panel I had done (see below). From what I read, Ferritin is needed to transport T3 into the cell, and it looks as though my level is low-normal. I have read that the optimal Ferritin level for a female on thyroid hormone is 80-90, while mine is at 19. This tells me my iron stores are not too strong. Do you have some thoughts on this lab? I’d like to increase my Ferritin to an optimal level while not pushing the other measures over the range.

    Iron 137 ug/dL (50 – 170 ug/dL)
    Iron Binding Capacity 313 mg/dL (265 – 497 mg/dL)
    % Saturation 44 % (15 – 50 %)
    Ferritin 19 ng/mL (7 – 270 ng/mL)

    Best,
    Katie

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Katie,

      I would check out this article for more info: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hypothyroidism-iron-deficiency/

  13. Dr Westin,
    Just want to say this is one of the most impressive and thorough articles that I have ever read on how to increase T4 to T3 naturally.
    Thank you so much!
    Barbara

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Barbara,

      No problem and I’m glad you found it helpful!

  14. Best info I have read yet. I pray I can get a dr who will prescribe T3
    I am so frustrated I started zinc. Selenium
    Just ordered oil of orgegano
    So it’s a start
    Now I need T 3. Thinking about ordering online

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Sharon,

      I’m glad you enjoyed it. I would caution against ordering medications online, however – you never know the quality of the medication and dosing T3 can be difficult and dangerous (which is why many providers are scared to use it).

  15. Christine green Avatar
    Christine green

    Thank you great articles. I was diagnosed with 4th stage liver disease in 2004 but functioning well now. I because of it had anemia and hypothyroidism. I was put on liquid iron and levothyroxine. Since I have gained 50 lbs. I have a very active exercise plan everyday, and eat at home right. Moderation on everything. I have tried everything to lose this weight in my stomach area. Never had it my whole life I was average. Also I find somedays it is hard to swallow. My dr. Is great but says my levels ar great were at 9.5 now <1. What should I try do you think the ntd. Or add in. T3 only med. thanks Christine g of austin mn

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Christine,

      I’m sorry but I really don’t understand your question. There are multiple thyroid lab tests so you will have to elaborate on which test you are referring to for me to be able to help you further.

      1. Christine green Avatar
        Christine green

        Hi Dr, sorry my tsh level is all my Dr says I need and it’s great. But like I said I never had weight gain until I started the levothyroxine. Same thing happened to my father and my sister. Fortunately my Dr is a great guy and is willing to work with me as he knows I am proactive on my health so if I were to ask him I’m sure he would help me. But I want to have as much info as I can because he is such a busy guy. So my question is in order to figure out if this is my thyroid meds should I try the naturethroid or have him add on a t3 med to my levothyroxine. Or go straight to the t3 alone. Or have him order tests first? Thank you so much Christine g

        1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
          Dr. Westin Childs

          I understand, but unfortunately there is no easy way to answer that question. There is no easy way to predict the type or dose of thyroid medication that any given patient will need for optimal results. Lab results can be used as a guide, but they don’t always tell the complete story – that’s why it can be difficult (or impossible) for a patient to treat/dose themselves.

          A good place to start is with a complete thyroid panel + fasting insulin + fasting leptin + estrogen/progesterone + Testosterone. This will give you a starting point to base other decisions off of, but again this is just the start.

          1. Christine Green Avatar
            Christine Green

            Dear Dr, thanks I talked with my Dr, and sure I can try this nt, so he sent me a prescription which I had to,pay for as insurance doesn’t pay for. Anyway, I was switched from 100 mcg to 97.5 mcg naturethroid. And I feel fine all day until after dinner I feel like my head is pounding and a little off not quite dizzy but off. I also feel cold in the evening. Should I have did a 50/50 dose for awhile? In other words 50/ levo and 50% nt? And gradually ween myself off of levo? My dr says we will do bloodwork in a month. I’m not sure he works with nt a lot so any help you can give is great. Thanks Christine g

          2. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
            Dr. Westin Childs

            Hey Christine,

            You can check out my guide for naturethroid on this page here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/naturethroid/

            Hope it helps!

  16. Kerry avis Avatar
    Kerry avis

    Hi. I was diagnosed 5 years ago with under active thyroid. I was very slim and active and never needed to diet. Now 5years later I am 5 stone heavier even though my THS levels have been normal for 3 years or so my weight continues to rise and still very tired. Been to an endo and was told by one endo then the weight gain and fatigue is ME (how) and the other endo told me that my fatigue is to do with my weight as I am now 103kg and 5ft 4in and very over weight. None of the endos agreed with me that I need to change my meds to T3 only. I was told that I should have gastric surgery as my weight gain and fatigue still continues even though I eat very well and and am very active and I have tried orlistat, nothing is working for me. I just don’t know what to do anymore.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Kerry,

      The best thing you can do is find someone who specializes in what I do and have them evaluate your lab work and provide treatment recommendations. Most PCP’s and endocrinologists have a very cursory understanding of what it takes to lose weight so they are not the best place to look for answers.

  17. Hi Doc,
    I am writing from Bulgaria to thank you for the very useful information on your blog. I have had Hashimoto for almost 20 years and have been struggling with waight, brain fog, fatigue and so on. As I was always very busy I did not pay much attention and just took my meds (88 mg Euthirox). Over the last few years however I had a thrombus, my prothrombin time was off, my triglicerides were high and I have a fibrocystic breast disease.So I started paying attention and reading. My FT3 is low, FT4 – high, so obviously I am not converting. I am currently on AIP trying to fix my gut and have been gluten free for almost an year. I excercise, walk and do yoga. FT3 meds are not sold in Bulgaria and, even if I bought them from abroad, I doubt that I will find a doctor who can work with me and fix an appropriate dose. So is there anything more that I can do to help conversion?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Elena,

      The easiest recommendations are listed in this post, further recommendations would require help and specific advice regarding your situation from a knowledgable physician or provider. This post is meant to be a starting guide.

    2. Stefanie Avatar
      Stefanie

      Hi Elena! It’s 4 years later, and I’m wondering… How are you doing? Lynne Farrow wrote a great book called “The Iodine Crisis.” In it she talks a lot about low iodine being at the root of Fibrocystic Breast Disease (FBD.) And of course your thyroid needs iodine too.

  18. Hi there!!
    I don’t have hashimotos but when I did a blood test a year ago my fT3 was 2.9 and now it’s 2.8. All of my other numbers looked fine. They were in the normal range. It’s just my fT3 that is off. That and my vitamin D was low. But those were the only two things. Would you recommend the same treatment for just fT3? She wanted to put me on nature thyroid but I have some reservations about it if it’s only my fT3 that is a little low. Wouldn’t that affect my other levels? I know I’m late to the post but hopefully you’ll have some insight for me. Thank you!!!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Rachel,

      Free T3 by itself has very little value unless coupled with other lab tests and symptoms.

  19. I have a real low t3 and adrenals. My eyes burn turn red and runny . I have tried everything. Any ideas

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Kathy,

      The best thing you can do is search for someone to help guide you, it can be impossible to figure much of this out on your own.

  20. Hi Doctor Childs,
    I have had a crazy year with health problems. I had a surgery which led to a C. diff infection, which led to Reactive Arthritis. I seem to have overcome those issues now, and I have been trying to heal my leaky gut, eating mostly Paleo, and my doc has me on a small amount of T3 and LDN. I quit taking the T3 because sometimes it made me sweat, but mostly because it gave me diarrhea. Do you have any recommendations so that I don’t get diarrhea when taking the T3? I quit taking it, and can’t seem to lose weight, despite eating a really strict Paleo diet. Also, can taking T3 cause your body to produce less of it’s own?

    thanks,
    Heather K.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Heather,

      Most hypothyroid patients will not lose weight by changing their diet alone, they will need to test for and balance other hormones that the thyroid influences.

  21. Hi, I have hypothyroidism since several years, and take levothyroxine (T4) and liothyronin (T3) . We have the same problems here in Sweden with low knowledge among physicians, but mine prescribed T3 :))) I found your site since I still have remaining issues. But I acutually do not want to ask about them, but give a tip about something that helped me tremendously. I had a lot of issues with twitching and stiffness and pain in muscles, joints and tendons, among them plantar fascitis (I do think it is connected to hypo, I have heard the same problems frpm other hypopatients) . I started taking MSM, and now I only have pain and stiffness when I get tired r stressed, not a constant pain. Also I take fluid magnesium before bed. Now I know that I should look into zinc as well, maybe that is will help. I am on anti-depressants, is there any study on that they inhibit conversion of T4 in body? I eat glutenfree and milk free, and mostly raw food, (maybe raw should be on your diet list? ) Thank you for your informative site and all the good work.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Jenny,

      Yes, anti depressants can reduce T4 to T3 conversion (along with many other medications).

  22. Hi Dr. Child’s,

    After 10 years of using birth control pills I finally quit and my body has been out of whack ever since. My most debilitating symptom is air hunger and chest tightness which I’ve read can be a progesterone deficiency or hypothyroidism. My latest thyroid test result shows
    TSH 1.2 (.4-4.5) range
    FT4 1 (.8-1.8) range
    FT3 2.9 (2.3-4.2) range
    RT3 15 (8-25) range

    Do you believe I could benefit from an increase in FT3? I have other symptoms as well but my naturopathic doctor noted my thyroid looked great. What are your thoughts on the levels? Thanks!

  23. I’m curious why when my Naure Thyroid was increased 1/4 grain (from 1 1/4 grain to 1.5 grains) my Free T3 and Free T4 plummeted as did my iron levels despite my taking an iron supplement during this same six week time period. My total iron is 58 and the iron saturation is 27%. My ND does not feel the ferritin is a good marker for me since it seems to fluctuate with my level of inflammation and the ALT, and AST. Needless to say I feel extremely fatigued and my mood is not great. Now she has decreased me to the lower dose (1 1/4 grain a day). She can not offer an explanation as to why my iron dropped so much even with the additional supplementation. I might add that since Oct. I have been eating clean, having done a liver cleanse, and now a candida cleanse. I exercise regularly. So I’d be very interested in your suggestions as to how to proceed.

  24. Hi Dr. Childs – Thank you for this article. Still making my way through it and I’ll be discussing with my doctor.

    Is it possible to have low T4 or RT3 and not really have symptoms? I learned I had low T4 over 20 years ago from routine blood work, but I didn’t have symptoms (that I’m aware of). At the time, testing for RT3 wasn’t done. I just had my RT3 tested and it is low (203), but again, I don’t feel that I’m having symptoms… or maybe I just don’t know what if feels like to be fully functioning! Do you have any thoughts on that?

    Note: Please check the first diagram, Factors that Affect Thyroid Function. Seems the top and bottom columns may not be on the correct sides, and the lower left column should read, “Factors that decrease (not increase) Conversion of T4 to RT3.”

    Thanks.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Joanne,

      It’s important to follow the patient and just not the labs. Whatever is “normal” for you may not be the standard “normal” for everyone else.

      Also, the diagram is accurate. Stress, trauma, etc. increase conversion to T4 to reverse T3 which necessarily reduces T3.

  25. Catarina Avatar
    Catarina

    Dear Dr. Childs,

    What a great website, I am so glad I found it! I wish there were doctors like you in Europe…but they seem few and far between.

    I have been on natural desiccated thyroid for the past five years. I started on Armour, then switched to Erfa which, unfortunately, also seems problematic and does not seem to work like it used to. So I decided to order NDT from Thailand, at a fraction of the cost of prescription NDT where I live.

    Regardless of brand, I seem to require a lot of NDT for complete symptom relief (I am currently taking 7 grains which means 266 mcg of T4 and 63 mcg of T3 daily). Yet, I have no hyper symptoms, and both my free Ts are in range (FT4 at the very bottom of range, FT3 midrange 24 h after latest dose). TSH completely suppressed, but I understand that is normal when taking T3. Also, I understand I can expect my FT3 levels to be about 20% higher on the previous day, as I only take NDT once a day (in the morning). My FT3 levels were 2.9 (ref 1.7-3.7) 24 h after taking NDT, so about 3.4 the previous day…?

    My question is: could I be suffering from rT3 dominance? Many claim you need less T4 when taking both T3 and T4, but I seem to need even more T4 now compared to when I was on levothyroxine only; back then, I took 200 mcg daily…which kept my FT4 levels at the upper normal limit, but my FT3 levels were never more than midrange.

    I have considered switching to another brand of NDT; I am currently on Thyroid-S which contains a lot of fillers, including cellulose, which could possibly decrease absorption of thyroid hormones.

    In your experience, is it unusual to need as much NDT as I seem to do? If my FT4 levels are low (0.9, ref 0.8-1.5), does that point to a potential rT3 problem? If so, I will ask for that test to be included next time I go to the lab.

    Thanks a lot in advance,
    Catarina

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Catarina,

      I’ve found most people feel like they need 3+ grains of NDT likely have contributing issues, are getting too much T4, or have other hormone imbalances contributing to their symptoms.

  26. Leeanne Avatar
    Leeanne

    Hi Dr Childs,

    Hoping you could comment on what you think would be the cause of reduction in FT4/FT3 levels?

    TSH = 12
    FT4 = .73
    FT3 = 3.8
    R3 = 13
    TPO in range

    I changed my diet recently to reduce inflammation, low carb/low sugar (was also gluten, dairy, soy -free for 2 yrs) within 3 weeks of new diet and new sleep schedule (actually getting sleep!) I felt better but my levels changed to:

    TSH = 6.6
    FT4 = .62
    FT3 = 2.9
    TPO 34 (out of range by 6 pts)

    Just wondering why I would feel better, cut TSH almost in half, but have lower levels of FT4/3 and increase TPO? Any ideas on why this would happen?

    THANKS! Leeanne :))

    1. Honora Avatar
      Honora

      Hi Leeanne

      Were the blood tests taken at the same time and both after you had withheld your morning dose?

      To illustrate this, I experimented with having a blood sample taken at half past eight and then again in the same day at 1pm recently. I think I took my morning dose after the first blood test (brain fog!!)

      my first results were:
      TSH 0.44 (0.40-4.00)
      FT4 9.45 pmol/L (10-24)
      FT3 4.3 (2.5-6.0)

      The second results were:
      TSH 0.32 (this triggered the lab to measure FT4 and FT3!)
      FT4 10.00
      FT3 6.5 which is out of range suggesting either T3 ingestion (yes), or T3 toxicosis.

      Low carb/low calorie diets can trigger increased conversion of T4 to RT3 instead of T3 and aren’t a good idea for us folks with hypothyroidism.

      For my part I am now alternating WTE with Thyrovanz and will see if the FT3 levels drop. I feel the same as I ever did (asymptomatic). I think if the FT3 is too high, it demineralises the bones which I don’t want.

      1. Leeanne Avatar
        Leeanne

        Honora,

        Thanks for reply. I’m not taking any thyroid meds. Trying to treat naturally and get thyroid working again on its own. I was happy to see TSH drop — so right direction there but wasn’t happy about FT3/4 dropping also.

  27. Hi, thanks for this, it’s very thorough. Do you have any thoughts on how helpful Tyrosine is / would be in this situation? It certainly makes me feel better but I’ve seen mixed opinions on it. I currently take Gaia Herbs Thyroid Support which has a couple different adaptogens including schisandra and ashwaganda plus 50 mcg iodine and 100 mcg tyrosine per capsule. I’d be curious to know if you have written anything on tyrosine. I would search the blog but can’t find a search bar… Thanks for your response!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hey Tanya,

      I haven’t written about tyrosine but will put it on my list for the future. I have written in the past about various supplements that support thyroid function and you can find them here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/thyroid-supplements/

  28. Hi.
    Thank you for your post. I hope you can help me.
    I am overwhelmed with current health issues and all the information I’ve received.
    I was diagnosed with Hashimotos in 2012. I am certain that my adrenals are strained, and have Leaky Gut issues as well(I am also deficient in iron, iodine, D-3, anemic. per tests) But the doctors I have seen will not consider the cause and/or treatment to address the autoimmune nature of Hashimotos. They only want to put me on meds.
    I KNOW I have to treat/fix the cause first – not just a bandaid fix!
    I have eliminated all wheat and gluten from my diet. Dairy and eggs on occasion. I’ve been adding necessary supplements. This has made wonderful changes to how I feel. but its not enough.
    The dietary changes are the most confusing. What is good for the adrenals and Leaky Gut, is not good for Hashimotos. (cruciferous vegetables, tomatoes and red peppers in particular)
    I know that I don’t eat enough. I have no appetite and have to make myself eat and/or what I eat bothers me and I am severely constipated. I’m taking supplements, started probiotics, fiber, teas, etc. I can’t “move” And I continue to slowly gain weight. Bloated belly is the norm now and It is utterly frustrating and discouraging. This is most of my stress…a vicious circle.
    I do NOT want to go on medication! That is my absolute last resort.
    I want to fix the cause of the autoimmune condition! And I cannot find a doctor who will work with me. I have numerous books – guide books, recipe books,etc. Can I fix all three issues at the same time? Which of my problems do I work on first? When is the best time to take supplements?
    Can you help me?
    Thank you,
    Kelly

  29. What is your advice about taking t3 for hashimotos? And Iodine?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Sandi,

      You can find more information here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/iodine-supplements/

  30. Hi Dr. Childs,

    Thank you so much for posting this information! I was hoping maybe you could help me understand a little further on a couple things.

    Last year, I went about 4 months without any periods which really worried me (I am 24 years old). In November I scheduled an appointment with my obgyn and after some tests she found that I had (subclinical) hypothyroid which was causing me to not ovulate or something. TSH was 11.2, T3 FREE 3.3, T4 FREE 1.05. So she prescribed me levothyroxine 50mcg. I got my period within a week after starting levo. At this point in time, I was 141 pounds. For the first couple months, I wasn’t taking it correctly though, so my body wan’t absorbing it all (didn’t wait long enough to eat after I took it).

    Starting Jan/Feb I made sure to start taking it correctly. About a week ago, I weighed myself and have gained 13 pounds in less than 3 months even though I watch everything I eat!!! I am now 154 pounds and feel like I have a pregnant woman’s stomach, it sticks out like crazy! I seriously went into a panic! I am getting married this year and I can not even fit in my wedding dress now! Then this past month, I again did not get my period. I scheduled another appointment with my obgyn and told her about the weight gain and my period not coming she said that from my last set of tests my results were TSH 1.08, FREE T4 1.31, FREE T3 3.0 and that since I was just “subclinical” I could just stop taking levothyroxine and the weight would come back to normal and my periods should resume if this is cause of it (no, I am not pregnant). Is she right about this?? I asked her if she can give me some T3 and she said no and that we need to wait for a couple months to see what happens to my Thyroid levels after I stop taking levothyroxine first. She said that maybe she can refer me to an endocrinologist later if my levels go off track again. I am terrified of this taking so long. I feel awful about this.

    Also, I have ADHD and take AdderallXR. Would T3 have any possible bad combination with my adderall medication?

    Thank you for your time,
    Maria

  31. I have a desiccated dietary supplement I was able to buy online made by Nutri-Meds, do you recommend any easy to purchase supplements for the Thyroid as I now live in Spain and it would help me tremendously!
    Thank you so much for a really informative website, will defiantly read more!
    Appreciate you!
    Fay

  32. Carolyn Simpson Avatar
    Carolyn Simpson

    Will Welbutrin affect Reverse T3. I have been following a great food and exercise program fir 10+ years. I am now working on Wheat free, Dairy Free, grain free and soy free diet along with homemade sauerkraut and water Kefir.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Carolyn,

      Some anti depressants can reduce T4 to T3 conversion.

  33. Natalie Avatar
    Natalie

    Hi Dr.Childs!

    I’m 17 years old and suffer from hashimotos. I’ve avoided taking any pharmaceuticals for two years other than LDN(3 months) without any improvements in my stagnant weight, hair strength, extream fatigue,etc. I take over 15 supplemts each morning for the past year in hopes of finding a natural solution using your tips. Do you suggest I start a T3 hormone supplementation or are side effects harmful?
    Thank you so much!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Natalie,

      The addition of thyroid hormone in the setting of Hashimoto’s should be assessed on a case by case basis – the same is true of T3. I don’t have enough information to say one way or the other.

  34. Annie Walton Avatar
    Annie Walton

    Hi, I had a subtotal thyroidectomy in 1995 due to graves disease. my thyroid didin’t recover and I am on 250 micrograms of thyroxine daily. Am I able to naturally increase my T3 levels with a functioning thyroid gland?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Annie,

      Yes, the T4 you are taking orally must be converted in the body to T3 before it is activated.

  35. Jackie Avatar
    Jackie

    Hello,
    I have been on levothyroxine my entire life as I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism when I was born. Until a year ago I never suffered from acne and now have a lot of acne only on my chin. Reading online I have read that it is due to hormonal imbalance. That is leading me to think that it has to do with my thyroid. I talked to my endocrinologist and dermatologist who ensured me it has nothing to do with my thyroid. What can I do to make them understand or take a closer look that my thyroid can be a problem. In your blog you mention checking your levels but do doctors supply you with your own lab test when checking your thyroid levels? Any recommendations on how to proceed? Thank hou

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jackie,

      Acne is often multifactorial meaning that there is usually more than just 1 cause. Your thyroid may be contributing but may not even be the thing contributing the most. You can read more about this idea here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hypothyroidism-acne/

  36. Jeremy Avatar
    Jeremy

    Is there a way to help boost you T3 after having your thyroid removed?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jeremy,

      These same principles apply to post thyroidectomy patients.

  37. Donna Streeter Avatar
    Donna Streeter

    I do not have a thyroid .15 months ago I have it surgically removed due to Papillary Cancer.I have been extremely tired and have gained a lot of weight since then..All my blood test are normal but I continue to tell my Dr my symptoms and want her to treat me with T3 medication but she will not do it..I saw another Dr for a second opinion and she would not treat me for T3 either..so will your recommendations be what I need to try and see if I do get better?..i ask because I do not have a thyroud..I take 150 mcg of Levothyroxine once daily.thank you

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Donna,

      These recommendations should help to improve your thyroid function. How much it will help is up in the air and largely depends on you and various other factors.

  38. Christi Richards Avatar
    Christi Richards

    This year will be 20 years I have had hyperthyroidism. My T3 has always been low but last year my T4 was high. I could tell something was off. Tired more than normal, no energy…..so this year I had my blood work done and my tsh went from .51 to 2.62. my question is what causes one to be high and the other low? I am using oils and a higher fat diet trying to help my gut funtion and get my thyroid working better. Eating cleaner for many reasons but mainly this. I would love to get off the T4 meds really both altogether but definitely back to taking one a day rather then 2. Any help or guidance would be appreciated.
    Thanks so much

  39. Hi Dr Childs, Im on the 22nd wk of my pregnancy now and I have had 3 tests so far for TSH, FT3 and FT4 with the ff results:

    Result#1 Dr’ Advise – take 25mg tablet of PTU-Propyltiouracil everyday for 3 weeks then test again
    TSH < 0.05 uIU/ML
    FT3 5.31 pmol/L
    FT4 22.06 pmol/L

    Result#2 Dr' Advise – take 25mg tablet of PTU-Propyltiouracil every other day for 4 weeks then test again
    TSH < 0.05
    FT3 4.31
    FT4 14.41

    Result #3 Dr' Advise – no medicine but will take the test after 3 weeks
    TSH < 0.05
    FT3 3.64
    FT4 8.11

    Normal Value based on hospital's form:
    TSH 0.25 – 5
    FT3 4-8.3
    FT4 10.6-19.4

    On Result#2, I thought the levels are already okay since the figures are within the normal value but the doctor told me that its not applicable to pregnant.
    On Result#3, she told me to stop the medicine and have the test after 3 weeks because I need to be within the normal range (as indicated above).

    Her advices are not consistent and it worries me a lot for my baby. We are planning to consult with another doctor.

    But for now, could you please advise and help me identify the normal value for pregnant like me.

    Thank you very much in advance.

    Carla

  40. Scottie Maxwell Avatar
    Scottie Maxwell

    I am suffering from a myxedema state of being. I am a 48yr old female with Hashimoto, Lupus, hypothyroid, insulin dumps, pericardial effusion, murmur, stroke, MI, hypoglycemia,myxedema
    sores .I eat and slip into a deep sleep for hours. I used to hear during state. Now I don’t. Loss of balance, severe confusion, inability to speak at times. I am dying. I know this. Can’t afford an Endocrinologist. I wish I could get well for my kids. I am all they have. No other fam. I hope my med history will help someone someday. I think a lot about walking off into the woods. For them, I don’t

    1. Stefanie Avatar
      Stefanie

      Scottie, I’m so sorry to hear this. 🙁 I know it’s almost 4 years later. How are you doing? Your symptoms could be related to Lyme Disease. You need an LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical Doctor) for proper diagnosis and treatment. Register for free on ILADS.org and do a provider search in your area.

  41. Hello Dr. Childs,

    I was diagnosed with hypothyriodism in 2012 after having a blood panel ordered when I switched jobs and received health care. At this time I didnt feel I had hypothyroid symptoms, however the doctor suggested I take 125mcg of Levothyroxine. At the time of my diagnosis I was 5’3″ and 125 lbs. Since taking the medication I began feeling much worse and at my lowest point in March of this year, weighted 175 lbs. ALL OF MY MANY DOCTORS have told me to stay on the meds and that my levels are fine and correct. My endocrinologist has now put me on Phentermine to lose weight. I have been taking it for 6 months and have only lost about 15 lbs. I have asked about adding a T3 med and have been denied. I recently paid over $600 out of pocket for a full metabolic blood panel only to once again hear that all my levels are normal and I should continue taking both levothyroxine and Phentermine. Phentermine is expensive and I dont want to take it. I want to stop taking the Levo, but am told that it would be dangerous.
    for your reference, my blood work as of 3/12/17 says my T4 is 1.5, my TSH is 0.704, my glucose serum is 98, AST is 16, ALT is 14, free testosterone serum is 36, T3 free serum is 3.1 and TPO is >600.
    Can you PLEASE help me interpret this?? I guess my main question is: would I benefit from T3 medication despite labs saying that my free T3 is in normal range?

    Thank you so much for your time.
    Sincerely,
    Kate

  42. ANN VAN PETEGHEM Avatar
    ANN VAN PETEGHEM

    Hello Dr Childs,

    I am the mother of a son of 21, autism, fairly normal functioning but a lot of issues since childhood : socially withdrawn/shy, GI issues,funny way of running, no interest in sport, nailbiting, concentration problems in school, problems with language development, problems with temperature regulation, acne, minor cognitive issues, reduced energy levels, hard time to become awake in the morning. I am living in Belgium and doctors are not really helpfull in that regard over here, they either deny that these syptoms are related to his autism and state that is just the mental way he is, I just have to accept it and go on with my and his life. He is doing a vacation job in Brussels and altough he sleeps more or less 8 hours during the night, he has great difficulty to keep his eyes open on the train, in the morning. That is something that seems abnormal to me, regarding his age and the fact he has no social life outside the house. He eats glutenfree as much as possible, lots of fruit but less vegetables. He did take a lot of supplements (natural) in the past but none of them gave a breakthrough. After I read this article, I am thinking about a thyroid problem. Could I have a point there and should I consider doing a blood panel abroad ? Or perhaps give a small amount iodine and tyrosine to see if I get an improvement ?

    Thank you very much for any reply !

    Ann

  43. Hello Dr Childs,
    Please advise…6 months ago my blood work looked like this – TSH 0.83, Free T4 1.4, Free T3 2.8. Since that time I have been on 100mcg of levoxyl and 3mcg of time released compounded T3. Last week my blood work looked like this – TSH 0.28, Free T4 1.4, Free T3 2.2 LOW TSH combined with LOW T3??? I have not had any relief from symptoms of fatigue, brittle nails/hairs and extreme difficulty in losing/maintaining weight (I am 48 year old female, weigh 134, work out 4-5 days/week, a year ago I weighed 126 – I know that isn’t a significant gain to some, but it seems impossible to not continue to gain). What are your thoughts? Thanks!

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Sarah,

      It’s very possible to have both a low TSH and low T3 levels if the majority of your medication consists of T4. This is one of the many reasons why the TSH isn’t the best measure of thyroid function in the body. In regards to weight loss you can find more in these sources:

      Weight loss guide: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hormone-mastery/

      Alternatively, you can also find further information on various blog posts.

  44. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism about 5 years ago but it was only on the cusp of having hypothyroidism and I was only on a very low dose of euthyrox so I was terrible at taking it.

    I’m kicking myself now. I now have hypothyroidism and hashimotos. I am 32, 168cm and 75kg and I am struggling to lose any weight. I know that shouldn’t be my main goal, but I have read countless blogs and websites and I know I am doing everything else right: diet, exercise, supplements. The only other thing that I’m not sure about is including T3 medication. However I live in Singapore and doctors don’t prescribe T3 medication. My most recent levels were: Free T4 18.20, Free T3 3.68 and TSH 0.03.

    I am currently taking:
    2x B12 spray daily
    2x Vitamin D oil drops daily
    1x 7-Keto DHEA daily
    1x folic acid tablet daily
    75mg thyroxine
    1x omega 3 fish oil capsule
    1x brazil nut daily (selenium)

    Is there anything that I’m missing? I know stress is not helping me as I’m stressing about not losing weight so it’s a bit of a vicious cycle for me at the moment.

    I weight train twice a week and HIIT twice a week. I need to reintroduce yoga to help manage my stress.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Erin,

      You can find out more about how to manage weight loss in hypothyroidism in my weight loss guide here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hormone-mastery/

  45. Paula Ford Avatar
    Paula Ford

    So thankful to have found someone who provides tons of information.
    Had TT due to 7 nodules and 2 showing significant enlargement within a year of watching them. Had 3 biopsies but was encouraged to have TT. Removed Dec 2015. Feel like I’m on a roller-coaster ride. Have palpitations. Had cardiac workup. Nothing significant.
    Had GI workup. Normal.
    Latest Labs:
    TSH. 4.78
    (2.47-4.68
    Free T3 2.80
    (2.77-5.27)
    Free T4 1.94
    (0.78-2.19)
    Cortisol 14.70.
    (4.5-22.7)
    Selenium 135
    (70-150)
    Vitamin D. 56
    I was on Levothyroxine 175. Decreased to 150 in July. Now on 137.5.
    Have only palpitation feeling rarely now. Doesn’t last long. So much better than it was since lowering Levo. Still have to take zantac 150 on occ. Feel so tired a lot of the time esp afternoons. Get massages to help with stress which helps. Trying to watch diet. Going to even more so after reading your articles.
    Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated. I asked my Endo about taking Cytomel. She didn’t think it was good idea since Ibe had palpitation feelings. Thought I was having heart attack more than once or twice but is better.
    Thank you for your help. Wish you were in my town or nearby I would be coming to see you ASAP. My endo won’t order Rev t3. Says it doesn’t matter since I had TT.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Paula,

      Really the best and only thing you can do is focus on what is in your control: stress, supplements, lifestyle changes, diet, exercise, etc. You won’t be able to convince your doctor to change your medication or force them to order tests or learn how to properly manage your medication. If you’ve tried all of the options listed above or you’re feeling stuck then your next best move is to find a new physician who specializes in the sort of treatment discussed here.

      You can find information on how to help in each area in various places on my blog including which supplements to take and what foods to eat, etc.

  46. Maggie Quilon Avatar
    Maggie Quilon

    Hi Dr. Childs,

    My 24 year old daughter has undergone total thyroidectomy more than a year ago. At present she has been taking levothyroxine and calcium with vitamin D3. She has gained a lot of weight after her operation which is causing her a lot of worries.

    What can you advise to help her lose weight? Are there any supplements needed?

    Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you verh much.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Maggie,

      I discuss my approach to weight loss in my guide here (it includes supplements, diet, exercise, detox, etc.): https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hormone-mastery/

  47. Johnny Mallard Avatar
    Johnny Mallard

    Hi, Can I increase my free T3 naturally if I don’t have a thyroid?

    Thank You,

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Johnny,

      Yes, this is important if you are taking T4 only thyroid hormone medication such as Levothyroxine, Synthroid or Tirosint.

  48. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism in 2008, and so have been on thyroid medication since then. All of my life I had never really had a problem with weight or other health issues for that matter. Since my diagnosis, weight gain has been a constant issue and now other health issues as well. What really doesn’t help at all is when you have a doctor who, instead of helping to find a cause, only makes it out to be your fault that you can’t lose weight. My eating habits, like most people as they age, has not increased, but decreased. I have also cut out a lot of things as well…things that are considered “unhealthy”, simply because they just no longer appeal to me. The bottom line here is that regardless how much I change my diet, exercise or whatever..
    IT IS NOT WORKING, but to have some arrogant Jeri doctor tell me that my weight gain is due to “excessive calories” goes beyond the pale. Then you say most “conventional” doctors are not willing to prescribe what will help. If you can’t find a doctor who is willing to help you rather than judge you, what the heck do you do?

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Anna,

      There are many things that are within your control that can certainly help, I go into detail and discuss these other therapies my guide weight loss guide: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/hormone-mastery/

  49. Jason Klinger Avatar
    Jason Klinger

    references please

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Jason,

      All references to the claims in the article are provided as hyperlinks in the article. Some points may be repeated from other articles on my site in which case I may not have included the link to provide evidence for claims that I’ve already outlined (but you should be able to find those in other articles as well).

  50. I am a 20 year thyroid cancer survivor and taking unithroif to replace the entire thyroid removed because of cancer and holding my own; however, the unithroid doesn’t make t3. Are food sources the best wat to increase t3 levels? I fall, like clock work, asleep at 230 pm.
    I got rid of a stressful job and am getting back on a realistic routine as I look for new employment. Thank you.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Sarah,

      There are no foods that would act to increase T3 levels. Instead you would want to focus on food choices that would indirectly reduce barriers that prevent T4 to T3 conversion, but these would be different in each person.

  51. So it’s possible to elevate just t3 and free t3 without medication? All other thryoid tests are in the functionally optimal range just free t3 is super low 2.2 so I feel every symptom on hypo. No anytibodies. But yes, I have low sex hormones, amenorrhea, and adrenal fatigue. All tested. So over time if I do these steps and eat well, I can elevate t3 without medication?

  52. Thanks for a very informative article!

    I have fairly low free T3:
    TSH: 1.70
    T3: 2.4 (2.3-4.2). It has always been at or below the lower reference value, once as low as 1.2.
    T4: 1.4 (0.8 – 1.8)

    Given the importance of proper thyroid function, I would like to increase my free T3 levels (preferably naturally, but using drug if required).

    I believe increasing free T3 would lower my fairly high cholesterol some (TC 260) and allow me to do ketogenic diets without my TC soaring to ~400. A ketogenic diet would help lower my blood sugar (I am pre-diabetic, fasting BG ~102, A1C 5.6). I am skinny (BMI 20.5), just not producing quite enough insulin.

    My diet is pretty healthy (no gluten, processed food, vegetable oils, etc.), lots of vegetables every day with some poultry or fish.

    Do you have recommendations / pointers for improving my free T3?

    Thanks.

  53. Jolie Nantz Avatar
    Jolie Nantz

    I was just recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism last week. My TSH is 9.54. My doctor agreed to let me try a natural approach for 8 weeks before retesting. I had been told L-tyrosine would be beneficial and have been taking it for a few days but further research makes me concerned about side effects. Should I discontinue its use? I am also slightly anemic (taking iron ). Other supplements added to my routine are ashwaghanda, B-complex, 2 Brazil nuts for Selenium, D3, a good probiotic. Considering adding zinc as well.

  54. Hello, does this still apply if I had graves for years and then RAI sent me into Hypo. Docs keep thinking I am over medicated because of my TSH, but I still feel sick and better on a higher dose of medication. I am at my wits end with this. I went from 180 mg to 75 and my TSH hasn’t changed much at all. I have done everything from cutting all grains, dairy and sugar from my diet, I exercise everyday and still can’t get the weight off. I am now pre-diabetic (diabetes doesn’t run in my family) and they don’t understand that I wouldn’t be if I could lose this weight I wouldn’t have this issue. I am struggling really hard just to maintain where I am currently without gaining weight. I weigh more now then I did 9 mon. pregnant and with nothing to show for it. Please help!

  55. Good Morning,

    I have been on WP Thyroid for about 2 years. My numbers “look normal” according to my doctor, but I don’t feel good whatsoever (or like my old self). Still debilitating tiredness, irritability, athletic stamina very much decreased, feel out of it, etc. I just had another blood test that said my B6 levels were elevated, my free T4 was low, TSH was normal, and free T3 was “normal” (not in the upper 1/3 though). I also have extremely elevated Epstein Barr levels right now even though I had mono several years ago. Any thoughts? I have taken all of the supplements in the books and seen several holistic doctors/DO’s. Would adding Cytomel to my WP Thyroid potentially help? I have adjusted my WP Thyroid to a higher dosage with no help whatsoever. I have also tried to eat gluten free, no sugar, etc.

    Thank you!

  56. Hi,

    I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s late last year. I am apparently sub-clinical, not requiring medication even though my symptoms are out of control. Although I convinced my doctor to put me on something to help with the Symptoms. He put me on Eutroxsig 50mcg on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
    This helps a little.
    I sleep 9hrs most nights and I need at least a 3-5hr nap during the day just to function. I have put on 20kgs of weight in the last 2-3 months without changing diet and mostly on my abdomen. Extreme sensitivity to the cold, mental fogginess and poor memory being just some of the symptoms.

    My doctor wants to take me off the Eutroxsig since my numbers are “normal”. but everytime he takes me off them my symptoms get worse and I end up begging to put on them again.

    I have gone gluten, dairy and soy free because I have heard that this helps. But have yet to see an improvement. I am on an Iodine solution to help with my moderate Iodine deficiency and am now considered not to have a deficiency. This had in no way improved my condition.
    Both of my FT3 and FT4 are in the bottom range of normal. convincing my doctor to do a reverse T3 test is impossible. He says that it is not needed and keeps saying that my TSH is with in normal range so I don’t need medication and everything is fine.

    Should I find a new GP that knows more about Thyroid conditions? should I request to see an Endocrinologist?
    I’m at a lost as to what to do.
    Please HELP!!

  57. Worried Mom Avatar
    Worried Mom

    Brought my 20 year old son to a new doctor. He thinks all labs are ok aside from elevated RT3 but I don’t think that’s true.
    TSH .87 (.4-4.5)
    Free T3 3.0 (3.0-4.7) Should be 4.275?
    Free T4 1.5 (.8-1.4)
    RT3 18 (8-25)
    Seems to me he is having a conversion problem, can you confirm this thought)?

  58. Hi,
    I am already taking zinc supplements. But there are so many forms of zinc like gluconate it is confusing which one to take. Which form of zinc do you recommend and what is the dosage?

  59. margie laughlin Avatar
    margie laughlin

    Hi,
    You say that optimal ranges listed don’t apply if on medication.
    How can I interpret my labs while on medication?
    TSH, T4 & T3 are all low, T3 almost never changes (2.4) even if the others do.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Margie,

      Yes, that is correct – once you introduce thyroid medication into your blood stream you are manipulating serum thyroid hormone levels which makes them more difficult to interpret. I have not discussed the interpretation of thyroid lab tests while taking thyroid medication on my blog yet but it’s on the list for future posts.

  60. I was taking Eutirox (levothyroxin) of 75mcgfor long time and I was doing perfect. 4 months ago I started taking generic levothyroxin and also started working as a teacher. It has been the most stressful 4 months of my entire life (I’m 31) I got my labs done and it shows I have low t3 levels, I have gained like 10 lbs in 4 months and while being on a Ketogenic diet I have not lost any weight, just gained. I have acne in my jawline and headaches everyday. My family dr put me in Armour 30mg a week ago. Should I request more lab tests to se other hormone levels, my dr said my cortisol is normal. Please if you can guide me in what to do. Thank you

  61. I was born with no thyroid gland at all and I haven’t taken my levothroxin in months. I grew up on Armour since they found out at 3 months old that I didn’t have a thyroid. I don’t like the levothroxin and can’t afford the Armour. I want to treat my hypothyroidism all naturally. I was currently on 300mcg. Please help me accomplish this goal. Sincerely, Jean Stroman

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Jean,

      It’s not a good idea to stop taking your thyroid medication if you do not have a thyroid gland as it may lead to very severe consequences. You can use therapies to boost thyroid function naturally, but if you don’t have a thyroid gland you need to get your thyroid hormone from some source and thyroid hormone is required for life. Lack of thyroid hormone period may lead to coma and death.

  62. Dr. Childs very helpful article. In 2015 I switched to a strict ketogenic lifestyle and although I love this way of eating, in the past year my body has put on weight (despite consistent eating habits and exercise). I suspected a thyroid relation and the first sign was low T3. Then I noticed a gradual shift in tsh from a baseline of 0.55 to 0.86 and a few months past at 1.47. The weight gain is the biggest indicator because I’ve never had my weightloss efforts go unnoticed and no matter what I’ve tried, no avail. I am taking your recommendation and seeing a new doctor to test for rt3. It’s worth looking into. If an elevated rt3 is the issue, would a diet change correct it (considering it was a diet that brought me here)? Thank you Dr. Childs.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Marine,

      It’s possible to improve thyroid function through dietary changes alone provided the reason for thyroid dysfunction was secondary to diet to begin with. Many times, however, thyroid dysfunction results in other issues that may not be reversed with diet alone – so it just depends on the situation!

  63. Are you familiar with Wilson’s Temperature Syndrome? http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com
    He talks about T3, and has tons of resources for physicians and patients. Wilson’s Syndrome is people who have symptoms of thyroid issues yet normal thyroid blood tests; and the main symptom is low body temperature consistently (around 97.8 or lower).

  64. Hey doc!

    Thank you for sharing all this information, hormones are so delicate and few doctors know how to look at the big picture and interpret it correctly.
    I had a baby 2.4 years ago, got an IUD, took it out after 9 months because it was horrible and then started having all kinds of hormone issues. I’m 40 years old. I’m seeing a naturopathic doc who helped me get estrogen and progesterone back on track, adrenals are being supplemented with organs and adaptogens, which has given me enough energy and mental clarity to go about life feeling alive. She also put me on Naturethroid, started at 0.5 grain and bumped it up to 1grain 3 months ago. A month ago my TSH was down to 0.82 and free T3 is at 4.3. But I still can’t lose the last 2kgs of baby fat. I checked my labs again yesterday and my reverse T3 is at 13, which might explain my inability to lose weight despite exercising (cardio 45-60min 4times per week+yoga+Pilates and some strength training) and eating right (organic, slow carbs, lots of veggies, no processed stuff). Would you recommend switching to a T3 only medication? Or lowering my NDT dose? Should I supplement with zinc and selenium anyway? How can I get my naturopath to help me better?
    Thank you again!

  65. Alison Avatar
    Alison

    Hi Dr. Childs,

    I had a thyroidectomy in 2007, followed by RAI. I had only taken levothyroxine-T4 until recently. Around 4 years ago, I started a new job and over a years time gained 15+ pounds. I’m not obese or even considered overweight. more in the category of…a few extra pounds, but still healthy. I regularly work out and ate healthy, for the past 3 years with no results in weight loss. After finding your website and realizing that it could be inefficient conversion to T3 and that switching to cytomel could help, I recently switched endocrinologists. Before switching endocrine doctor I was taking 175mcg levothyroxine(5 days per week) and 150mcg(2 days per week). I am now taking 150mcg(5 days per week) and 175 mcg(2 days per week) along with 5mcg Cytomel (2 x per day once in morning, once in afternoon). I have only been on this combination of medicines for the past week, so I haven’t really seen any results thus far. I am hoping that the addition of cytomel will help increase my energy and help with weight loss. I plan to continue with my exercise and healthy eating. I’m just worried that the doseage of cytomel is too low to have the positive effects. What are your thoughts? Also, Today I read about a supplement called Nano Glutathione. Have you heard of this supplement and do you think it could help? Thank you, Alison

  66. monsie pickles Avatar
    monsie pickles

    Dr Childs:
    I am hypothyroid, I have anemia, constipation, high rt3, low body temperature, I am obese, I am short of breath. I feel tired, weak. I sleep from 9pm to 2am or 2.30 am. I get up, I take a chamomile tea, listen to the BBC radio in UK for an hour or less. Go back to bed and fall asleep until 6 am or 6.30 am. I practice mindful meditation. It helps. I do not have palpitations or things like that. I take zinc, and selenium and gentle iron supplement, vit B complex, Liposomal Vit C. I have been taking NDT since April 2015. Up to 3 grains in 2016, but I was not feeling well. So I took less and less and more, and less trying to feel better. I am taking HC 18 mg/day and weaning of. But I had to increase last week. I got a bad cold and my Endocrinologist (I cannot trust) advised me to increase HC to 18 mg/day. I was feeling so sick the last few months, that I did not know what to do. My Endocrinologists does not want to check my FT3, least of all my rt3. I paid on line for a rt3 test and is on the border with ‘high’. I live in Australia. I felt so sick, I stopped my NDT altogether as I did not know what to do. My endocrinologist wanted me to take T4 only. I DID!. After 4 days, I stopped it. I was scared the symptoms were killing me. I feel better since I increased HC a little and stopped medication for the thyroid. But I know I need t3 which I bought in US and is coming next week. I am an elderly person and I know I have to take very little Cytomel to start with.
    I can buy blood tests on line. My endocrinologist is only interested in my TSH which is very low. Last month, another endocrinologist tested me for Ft3 and I was a bit over the range.Can you tell me what you think I should do? I’d appreciate it very much.
    monsie

  67. Kim Anderson Avatar
    Kim Anderson

    Dr. Childs,

    Can my body still make T3 after a total thyroidectomy?

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Kim,

      No, after your thyroid is removed you are reliant upon T4 medication which your body must still convert to T3. The same therapies and principles apply but in a slightly different way.

  68. Janis Lovullo Avatar
    Janis Lovullo

    I’m on Levothyroxine and want to take something to boost my T3.
    My hair has been shedding for over two years.
    My doctor doesn’t want to put mine on T3.
    What can I take to boost my T3?
    I’ve read all about thyroid it points to me needing T3 added to T4’ any suggestions?

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Janis,

      I would take a look at the supplements listed in this article, or you can take a look at these as well:

      T3 conversion booster: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/product/t3-conversion-booster/
      Thyroid hair regrowth complex: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/product/thyroid-hair-regrowth-complex/

      It’s also important to evaluate nutrient deficiencies, iron status, thyroid dosing and so on.

  69. Can a person with a total thyroidectomy benefit from selenium to boost thyroid replacement meds conversion from t4 to t3?

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Ann,

      Yes, potentially, because conversion is still relevant if you take T4 medication orally (as opposed to producing the T4 naturally from the thyroid gland).

  70. Martin Upton Avatar
    Martin Upton

    Just wanted to say THANKS for all your articles. They are well written and easy (relatively for the complexity ) to follow and highly informative. They have been super helpful to gain understanding. Thankyou!
    Regards Martin

  71. Martin Upton Avatar
    Martin Upton

    Hi Dr Child’s, I’ve been thinking about your article and believe I have a conversion problem. I am on both NDT and T4 medication and have noticed that whenever I get my T4 up (to the upper third of the reference range) that my symptoms get worse. I have done RT3 tests and my T3/RT3 ratio seems to sit around 15 (stubbornly). I suspect that I am converting to RT3 too much or not producing enough T3. I have tried T3 only and don’t seem to handle that well.
    My only abnormal blood tests are my liver function (ast and Alt fluctuate between 50 and 70) (upper end of their range is 45) and this may be because u have been taking anti inflammatories (naproxen) for the last two years.
    Given that you have mentioned that the liver can account for up to 60% of the conversion could my liver function be the cause of the problem?
    Is the likely cause of the high liver function the naproxen or is there something else (thyroid related) ?
    Do the same factors that impact T3 conversion also impact RT3 production?
    I have a cancer related question but will put it in another post

    Thankyou very much
    Regards
    Martin

  72. Martin Upton Avatar
    Martin Upton

    Hi Dr Child’s,

    I have Hashimotos and I think perhaps conversion issues as a result of elevated liver function. Given that as you mentioned 60% of T4/T3 happens in the liver I have the following question.

    My father in law has been diagnosed with chirosis of the liver which has led to agressive cancer. He has gone downhill very quickly (weeks). Is it common for chirosis /cancer of the liver to create conversion issues in patients? (And if so is it worthwhile getting him tested for it)?

    Thanks
    Martin

  73. Christina Avatar
    Christina

    My aunt who is an expat and works in Europe was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. She had great success using Bio-Selenium+Zinc. In the past year, I started gaining weight, feeling tired and cold all the time and my hair started thinning. As I couldn’t get the product here, I ordered Solaray’s 50mg Zinc and Pharma Nord’s SelenoPrecise. I have been taking those faithfully for the past 6 months and it has really helped. Now that I am looking closely at your conversion factors, it is obvious that before I was not converting enough T4 to T3.

  74. Natasha Tomlins Avatar
    Natasha Tomlins

    Hi,
    I have both Graves Disease and Pernicious Anaemia. I no longer have any thyroid function due to radioactive iodine therapy four years ago.
    Since my treatment, my lab results (TSH and T4 only) showed that I was borderline hyperthyroid – yet all physical symptoms were hypothyroid (gained 15kg, always exhausted, gravelly voice, foggy brain, half eyebrows, depression). After researching, I requested T3 & rT3 labs with the following results
    Initial:
    T4 – 17.8 (pmol/L)
    T3 – 3.9 (pmol/L)
    TSH – 0.13 (mIU/L)
    rT3 – 511 (pmol/L)

    I switched from straight T4 (100mcg) to desiccated pig thyroid. It has been six weeks and I have had labs done again. My results are as follows:
    T4 – 11.7 (pmol/L)
    T3 – 4.3 (pmol/L)
    TSH – 0.07 (mIU/L)
    rT3 – 302 (pmol/L)

    For a brief window before switching to the pig thyroid, I was on straight T3 and felt fantastic. Now that I am on the desiccated supplement that includes T4, I feel almost as bad as when I was on the straight synthetic T4.

    Long winded message (apologies) but I’m wondering whether I can take just the T3 and never bother with the T4 (and the T1 & T2 that is also in the desiccated supplement)? I also noticed that my TSH is ‘off the rails’ low, and am wondering what is also going on there, please? My endocrinologist doesn’t believe in the whole rT3 thing, and my GP is happy to order the tests for me but acknowledges he has no idea what to do with the results.
    I’m in Australia and can’t seem to find a specialist who is open-minded about such things, so would really appreciate any advice you can give me.
    Kindest regards,
    Natasha.

  75. I had a total thyroidectomy 12/22/2010 (which also damaged parathyroids) and was stablilized for 6 years on a dosage of 138mg of Synthroid(generic levothyroxine caused issues). Although my TSH was consistently in the 0.18 range, I was very physically active, felt great, weight was almost exactly where I wanted it, etc. Last November(after the end of fall softball season), I took it easy with very little physical activity at all…by 12/10, I began experiencing arrhythmia/tachycardia, which evolved into A-Fib on 12/30/17. My synthroid dosage was reduced to 125 then to 112 in January, finally resulting in stabilization (i.e. elimination of A-Fib symptoms) by mid March.
    My question is whether you are aware of any studies or opinions on the relationship between higher dosages of thyroid hormone/corresponding low TSH and exercise/physical activity specifically in women? I am convinced that that is the case and why I experienced no negative symptons even with TSH around 0.18 for years. This spring I have gradually increased my physical activity again, while remaining on the 112 dosage and my TSH went from 0.21 in April, 0.57 in May and now 0.43 in June – no change in dosage.
    Practically speaking, I experience most symptoms of low thyroid (fatigue, hair loss, weight gain, some muscle weakness(although I also struggle with hypocalcemia due to parathyroid damage))
    Thank you for any wisdom or suggestions!

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Susan,

      I’m a bit confused by your question. The only relationship between TSH and exercise capacity would be as TSH increases it would be less likely that the patient would be able to exercise due to fatigue from hypothyroidism. As far as I know, there is not a relationship between low TSH and exercise capacity, though you might feel more energy with a lower TSH which may account for increased energy/exercise on a personal level.

  76. Gayle Miller Avatar
    Gayle Miller

    I currently live in Australia. I had thyroid surgery in my teens carried out by a local surgeon (unfortunately was not referred to specialist). Very poor follow up meant I was seriously ill with hypothyroidism for 4 years – until I researched and diagnosed. Surgery was 45 years ago and I have never been able to find a doctor that knows enough. In the UK for a couple of years I had a wonderful osteopath/naturopath. Suffered unnecessarily from fibromyalgia for a couple of decades, until I discovered Dr John Lowe. In researching my current test results, I discovered your website – the information you provide is invaluable. I have an explanation for my high T4 and only mid range T3 – ie, not converting properly. All doctors want to do is cut down T4 medication (unfortunately none treat with T3 as well.) I no longer follow bad advice. I am now going to focus on improving T4 to T3 conversion. Thank you so much for making this information available.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Gayle,

      No problem and I’m glad you found it helpful!

  77. Suzanne Kearney Avatar
    Suzanne Kearney

    Hi Doc!

    Loved your article and the way you practice. You probably could have helped me and I wish I found you sooner. As it was I had to figure out my problems on my own as the doctors were clueless. Long story short, I had a chronic fatigue situation, I do have hoshimotos too, (Epstein Barr IgG antibodies were over 750 at the time this all started). No help from the doctors…. I figured out on my own about nutritional deficiencies, needing to eliminate dairy, gluten, etc. Added dark leafy green juicing… slowly added some high quality organ supplements including thyroid, slowly started on some kelp only after months of using whole food supplements such as selenium, zinc, vit b, vit c (from acerola cherry), etc. Slowly got well, over MONTHS. I went from not being able to walk around the block or work to walking up hills around the house, now back to work part time and generally felling better than I have in years. I did finally find a decent naturopath who confirmed I was on the right track. She told me to keep an eye on my body temperature, to get it up to 98.6 as a sign my thyroid is functioning well. I also read that the pulse is a good thing to check for thyroid function as well – your thoughts on that?

    Thank you!

    Suzie

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Suzie,

      Body temperature can be used as a proxy for metabolism and it was used before we had more advanced thyroid lab tests. The problem with using body temp is that you often end up on a higher than necessary thyroid dose which results in symptoms and may damage your metabolism in the long run.

  78. Leigh Ann Avatar
    Leigh Ann

    Hey, I loved this article! I am a T1,on an insulin pump, I exercise (Burn Bootcamp) 6 days a week and I eat health and Whole30(ish). For 6 weeks I was in a challenge at bootcamp and I dropped 5 of those last 10lbs to be at 137.8lbs and dropped body fat to the lowest its been at 23.7% When that challenge ended…..2 days later I fell running and broke my collarbone and now have a metal plate….but it doesn’t stop there. The bone pulled away from the plate in the 1st week or recovery and I had revision surgery 11 days later. I’m healing slowly but no pain. All that to say, I am back at bootcamp as of mid April, weighing 138.2lbs, heavily modifying then and have increased what I can do now. But……I have gained those 5 lbs back, plus 5 more since April 11 and now I’m at 145 lbs. My BF% went up as well by about 7%. I am burning the same amount of calories as before so now I’m wondering if my Hashimoto’s is trying to take charge? I’m not ok with that. Did my back to back surgeries screw my body up? What gives? Should I go to my endo and get bloodwork done? I’m realy frustrated to no end because I workout HARD everyday and I had my weight and nutrition all under control and was making those gains and reaching my goals and then it stopped, without warning within 2 weeks of returning to bootcamp. As far as location on the body..it’s my lower belly (baby belly), boobs and thighs…..but mostly belly. HELP guide me in the right direction, please.
    -LAM

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Leigh,

      The first place you should start is with a complete thyroid lab panel, you can learn more about that here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/normal-thyroid-levels/

  79. Hey there, thanks so much for this article. It was great information and I am excited to be able to use it for my clients and to have a resource I can refer them to. You’re incredible.

    Blessings,
    Ashlee cNC

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Ashlee,

      No problem and glad you found it helpful!

  80. Thank you for this detailed, easy-to-understand guide: it was exactly the information I needed and will help me tremendously in my efforts to support my husband’s healing from damage done by military vaccinations that destroyed Orexin neurons and caused a cascade of lifetime complications, beginning with Narcolepsy at the age of 18. Now in his fifties, after having been misdiagnosed multiple times with a myriad of conditions (including Multiple System Atrophy), we’re finally understanding the root cause of his illness and making progress in reversing the damage.
    http://www.hormonesmatter.com/thyroid-medication-vaccine-induced-demyelination/

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21707794

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Mary,

      No problem and I’m glad you found it helpful!

  81. Thank you for the compiled educational articles on your website. So appreciated.

    Iused to take i-throid iodine daily but am not sure if it contributed to heart palpitations. I take selenium daily, zinc several times a week, and the iodine maybe once a week. You gave suggested does of iodine as “150-170mcg of iodine per day”. i-throid contains potassium iodine 7.5 mg, free iodine USP 5 mg, and Potassium iodine USP 2.5 mg. How does this dosing compare with your recommendation? I don’t know mcg from mg. Is the i-throid higher than what you recommend? Do you have another brand that your patients work with? Thank you.

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Robin,

      I almost exclusively use my own supplements on my patients but that’s primarily because I know they work and I’ve tested them on thousands of people. I’m sure there are other supplements out there that can also work, I’m just not familiar with them.

  82. This was a great article. I am on np thyroid, 210mg, daily. This was just increased from armour 180. I had radioactive iodine in 1995. I’m 44. My weight has been 121 for two decades. Over the last 3 years my weight has increased steadily. I am at 130. I teach fitness and eat well. I can’t lose a pound! I have extra fat around my middle/thighs. My doc did see that I have a huge gap between progesterone (.04) and estrogen and put me on progesterone 100mg.
    My reverse t3 is high. According to your article, how do I know if I’m restricting too much and that is why I’m gaining.
    I also take iodoral and no selenium. Should I add that?

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi N.

      You can find more information about eating enough calories and the symptoms of not eating enough here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/symptoms-of-not-eating-enough-calories/

      I would check out that article for more information!

  83. Tekin Bora Avatar
    Tekin Bora

    Hi Doctor ,my question is I was diagnosed Graves’ disease 2008 my blood test results was :TSH 0.01 freet3: 19.39pmol/L (3.6-6.5)freet4: 30.9 (9-19.1) my freet3 and freet4 levels was up and down but my antthyroid medication dose exactly same almost 8-9 years why ? ignorant endocrinologist or what ? I checked my blood test results since 2008 March 2009 my TSH was 1.5(0.35-4.94) but dose exactly same why ? Thanks doctor

  84. Elizabeth Avatar
    Elizabeth

    Thank you for the quality information you share.

    I wonder if you have written about how to make a choice between:
    Surgery to remove part of all of the thyroid, vs Radioactive Iodine to stop a suddenly over producing nodule (biopsied and not cancerous).

    There is so much conflicting advise one way or the other.
    I hope you will consider making a blog or video to help someone with a newly hyperactive thyroid nodule to make the best choice.

    In the meantime, I’ve just started a low dose of Methimazole following the herbal Thyroid Calming tincture from Herb Pharm. It’s a very serious decision to get surgery or RAI, and I would really appreciate how you would suggest making a choice.

    Thank you!

    1. Westin Childs Avatar
      Westin Childs

      Hi Elizabeth,

      Sure, as a quick overview…

      If you have the option to keep some of your thyroid gland versus taking out all of it or destroying all of it with RAI then it’s probably best to keep whatever amount of thyroid gland you can. The thyroid gland can hypertrophy to make up for lost gland but if you remove all of it then you will be 100% reliant upon thyroid medication for life.

      1. Tekin Bora Avatar
        Tekin Bora

        Can Graves’ disease lower dopamine levels sir ? My symptoms was low mood ,anxiety and low libido thanks doctor ….

  85. Tekin Bora Avatar
    Tekin Bora

    Please advise me :diagnosed Graves’ disease 2008 my TPO was 269u/mL my first symptoms was right hand shake my first blood test results was TSH 0.01 freet3 19.39pmol/L (3.6-6.5)
    Freet4 was :30.9pmol/L (9-19.1) and next blood test results TSH 0.01 freet3:10.67freet4:22.7(9-19.1) 6 October 2008 :TSH was0.01 (0.35-4.94) freet4 was 25.0pmol/L (9-19.1) freet3: 9.95pmol/L (3.6-6.5)30 mg carbimazole a day 6 November 2008 :TSH 0.01 (0.35-4.94)freet3:6.23(3.6-6.5)freet4: 14.1(9-19.1)9 December 2008!:tsh0.01 freet3: 5.77(3.6-6.5)freet4: 11.6(9-19) 3 March 2009 blood test results:TSH was :1.5(0.35-4.94)freet4: 12.2(9-19.1)my CK was 3944u/L (0.200) doctor said muscle problem or too much PTU (propthyuracil) 17 March 2009 blood test results:TSH was 0.04 (0.35-4.94)freet4:14.3freet3:6.45(3.6-6.5)28 April 2009 : CK :268 TSH 0.06 freet3: 5.35 freet4:11.6(9-19) 27 July 2009 blood test results TSH 0.01 freet3: 8.09(3.6-6.5)freet4: 17.3(9-19.1) 6 November 2009:freet3:9.04pmol/L freet4: 20.2pmol/L (9-19.1) TSH was 0.01 (0.35-4.94) 19 April 2010 blood test results was:TSH 0.01 freet4:21.3freet3: 9.19pmol/L (3.6-6.5) nhs uk 22 February 2011 :TSH 0.01 freet4: 11.8 (9-19.1)freet3: 7.52 (3.6-6.5) same dose 300 mg PTU I refused the RAI treatment 2011 ( I don’t know why ? I was scared) doctor said you think about it RAI or surgery (maybe I made big mistake refused rai ) 23 January 2013 :TSH :0.01 freet4: 16.0(9-19.1)freet3 7.89 pmol/L(3.6-6.5) 6 May 2014 blood test results was:TSH 0.01 freet3: 5.04 (3.6-6.5)freet4: 11.3(9-19.1) i didn’t know any this blood test results!! I thought I will be ok with antithyroid medication 9 October 2014 my TSH was normal 1.3 mU/L (0.35-4.94) still same dose PTU 300’mg a day 30’june 2015 my thyroid levels start going up again didn’t feel very well symptoms was anxiety ,low mood TSH 0.01.freet3 was 7.66pmol/L freet4 was 14.4 1 st September 2015 blood test results was TSH 0.01 freet3 was 8.63 pmol/L freet4 was 16.2(12-22.0) after this test I was ill I went to emergency to hospital my hands was shaking doctor said anxiety go home nothing serious he said 13 January 2016 I had another blood test my thyroid levels was going up again freet3 was 9.30 pmol/L freet4 was 14.2(12-22.0) and February I had mini stroke (TIA) doctor said coincidence no connection with high thyroid levels but I think it was because next blood test results my thyroid still was going up freet3: 11.86 pmol/L freet4 was 19.3 (12-22) 15 March 2016 ……poorly treated almost 9 years

  86. Tekin Bora Avatar
    Tekin Bora

    My symptoms was since diagnosed Graves’ disease : sweating ,low libido ,easily bored ,easily get stress and angry and low mood my question is can Graves’ disease lower Neurotransmitters? Biologically lower dopamine levels? Thanks …

  87. Tekin Bora Avatar
    Tekin Bora

    Please Doctor can you do article about overactive thyroid (Graves’ disease ) thanks …..

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Tekin,

      I don’t talk too much about hyperthyroidism because it ultimately ends up in hypothyroidism but I have a handful of articles on the topic that you can check out here:

      https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/category/thyroid/hyperthyroidism/
      https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/graves-disease-diet/

  88. Tekin Bora Avatar
    Tekin Bora

    Thank you so much! you are very kind I wish you were my Doctor! Thanks for the help.

  89. Carolina Avatar
    Carolina

    Hello Dr Childs,

    Thank you for a very informative page!

    I have a question that I haven’t found an answer to yet.

    What specific tissues in the body require the 20% of direct t3 that is produced in a healthy thyroid?

    If I have not misunderstood it seems that at least some part of the heart tissue requires direct t3 whilst other parts require t3 through conversion.

    Now I wonder if there are more tissues in the body that are specifically in need of the direct t3 that is produced in a normal thyroid gland? Do you have any knowledge about this and perhaps links to relevant articles?

    Best Regards

    Carolina

    – 10 years on mono-medication after full thyroidectomy due to Graves. Nowadays with arrhythmia and slower heart rate.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Carolina,

      I’m not quite sure I understand the question. All tissues require T3 (with the exception of maybe the brain) and it doesn’t matter if those tissues get the T3 via conversion or through direct production.

  90. This is the most comprehensive article on T3 conversion. I have Hashimoto’s for the last 17 years, my thyroxine dose is 125mcg now. I have been to all the endocrinologists in the city ( Dubai) but they have the same basic knowledge which is very frustrating. My last week’s reading is low TSH, normal (mid-range) FT4 and FT3 slightly lower than lower normal range. The dr, as expected, asked to cut down on dosage and bring it down to 100mcg. This is my plan, I will take 100mcg for 5 days and 150mcg 2 days. My real focus will be to take the above steps to increase the conversion to T4 to T3 and repeat the results after 4 weeks to see if there is any difference at all. BTW I am a doctor myself and have good baseline knowledge. Thanks, Dr. Westin for your efforts, it’s a true community help.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Naila,

      You’re very welcome! I hope it helps and it sounds like you have a good plan going forward.

  91. I am so incredibly thankful to have found this article! I have Graves Disease and had my thyroid removed 5 years ago. Whilst I live a busy life, I have been finding myself feeling increasingly exhausted and have put on 20 kilo’s… not happy. I take 125mg Thyroxine a day, my last blood count read T4 20, TSH 0.35. I am also at the very lowest end for my iron levels and sometimes under.

    It appears I am taking enough Thyroxine, but not sure that my body is processing it correctly. I get a sore bloated stomach after each meal, and am either constipated or more recently have been experiencing a lot of gas and diarrhea. I am going to now get my FT3 and thyroid autoantibodies checked. I am going to take your advise and start taking zinc, selenium, vit B6, a liquid iron supplement and a probiotic.

    Thank you for this advice, I feel very hopeful.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Kelly,

      No problem and thanks for sharing!

  92. Oscar Whittle Avatar
    Oscar Whittle

    I’m taking levothyroxine 88 mcg and gaining weight. I do take blood thinners, water pills, hight blood pressure medicine and cancer medication chemo. I have not loss weight with the medicine.

  93. I just had a major blood workup. My surprise wasn’t that my thyroid was an issue. I’ve suspected that it wasn’t really normal for a long time, even though results are in normal range, as I’ve struggled to lose weight. Recently, I did lose doing KETO and am now in a normal weight range. I just calculated my thyroid tests and none appear to be in optimal range and I had the antibodies test done which showed Thyroglobulin antibodies of 12. My thyroid peroxidase antibodies were in the normal range but at the top with a value of 8. In addition, my sex hormone binding globulin was high at 123. I tested low for iodine at 51. My iron and ferritin levels were in normal range ferritin being 78. My selenium was in the normal range at 162 but could be higher with no problem and probably should be. My zinc was mid-range at 11.49. I’m thinking based on what I have read at your site, I should supplement with zinc, selenium and iodine. In addition, begin taking a digestive enzyme with each meal and do probiotic right before bed. Then, get retested and see if it makes any difference in what I am doing.

  94. TeresaM Avatar
    TeresaM

    My doctor says my thyroid is at the upper end of normal, and I should be zipping around (definitely not!). Body temperature averages around 35.5 during the week, with Wilson Temperature Syndrome being the cause – thyroid with low temperature when results are normal. Also a reading for a fatty liver. UK only prescribes Levothyroxine with a reluctance to issue T3 as a remedy. Been overdosed on Thyroxine, which gave me an irregular heartbeat. Would like to know what natural supplements I should be taking to function better and get more energy.

  95. Arthur Larson Avatar
    Arthur Larson

    Hello Dr,
    My wife received her order yesterday of the T3 Conversion Booster. Her rt3 test value was 27.6 and her dr started her on 5mcg of liothyronine. The dr wanted to start slowly though the website said 25 mcg was a good starting point. Is it safe to take the Rx and the Booster both together? Please advise

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Arthur,

      Yes, perfectly safe to use T3 conversion booster with all T3 medications including liothyronine/Cytomel.

  96. Becky Avatar
    Becky

    Hi Dr Childs,
    I have a few questions about conversion that I would be grateful if you could answer:
    1) can being underweight cause conversion issues?
    2) I have read that if t3 levels are too low conversion will drop further due to the body focusing on reverse t3 – is this true and therefore does getting t3 past a certain point aid conversion of further t3?
    3) And the one I am most curious about – if one is already taking t3 is it possible to improve conversion whilst taking it and therefore raise t3 levels without having to take more liothyronine even on a bigger amount of t3 say 12.5mcg?
    Many thanks!

  97. Just wanted to note you stated that Vitamin C is a fat soluble vitamin. It’s actually water-soluble. Enjoy reading your articles.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Karla,

      Thanks for bringing this to my attention! It is a typo, it should read the A, D, and E.

  98. Hi

    I have a question, I’m pretty sure I have hashimotos although I haven’t been diagnosed yet except with having lifelong hypothyroidism and Thyroid antibodies of over 2000 , I’m 20 so it does seem like a end of the world thing. So far I’ve been refraining from free sugars completely and eating more fruit and veg. My GP is being really stubborn so far but I’m sticking with her until I get my thyroid scanned.
    So I had access to my results a few days ago and I realised I had a high Bilrubin level (higher than normal around 3.0). Is there anything I could to to remedy that? My GP didn’t mention it at all.
    Thank you for giving me hope.

  99. Rachel Grabowiecki Avatar
    Rachel Grabowiecki

    Dear Dr. Westin Childs

    I am a 56 year old women. I have been taking Eltroxin for several years and this was prescribed to me based on a high TSH level. I then went to an Endocrinologist who said I may have Hoshimoto, Eltroxin is what I was given. I just now had a blood test and there are my values>

    TSH 3.89 uIU/mL on the high side
    T3 2.63 PMOL/L too low
    T4 13.29 PMOL/L normal?
    Ferritin 41.89 NG /ML too low

    the reverse T3 etc was not tested
    The reason I asked for tests is because I started the Keto Diet a good month ago together with intermittent fasting. I exercise, I feel ok, but I am unable to lose any weight. Energy wize I feel good on this diet, I also sleep well etc. But I am unable to lose weight. I went on the diet because I started gaining weight, although I did not eat more than usual.
    I love to exercise, I do not eat processed or junk food ever.
    Its all very strange.

    Should I request further testing?
    Which Vitamins should I supplement and what amounts per Vitamin if speaking of
    Zinc
    Selenium
    Vitamin B6
    Iron
    How do I add Iodine at a sensible level?

    Thank you for any help you can offer!
    Blessings,
    Rachel

  100. Thank you for all of this great information. What do you suggest to help the liver function better? Also, I am taking a break from my T3 meds since they were making me so anxious and jittery. I have become gluten free and take extremely good vitamin and mineral supplements and am wondering if that is why my T3 meds were doing that to me, since maybe my T4 is converting to T3 on it’s own now. I have also added a blood sugar supplement as well as gut supplements and aloe. I still have problems with acid at night when sleeping, coming up my throat and making me cough. I am not sure what more I can do for that, since I have had a history of acid reflux with my thyroid problems (20 years) I am planning to do a liver cleanse in January to see if that will help. Thank you!

  101. Read the entire article! Lots of information to take in. You have eerily described my health problems though out my life. In high school many moons ago a doctor I went to gave me thyroid medication after blood tests and said even though they were normal I needed meds. Lost weight no anxiety no nervousness actually felt “normal” . After he passed couldn’t get another doctor to believe me. Showed the records and still no. Most of the women in my family take thyroid medication and some male cousins have actually had it removed. All are on levothyroxin only . I take Fluxotene 30 mg and still have restless leg and 90% of listed symptoms of hypothyroidism. I’m so tired.

  102. Shirley Hunt Avatar
    Shirley Hunt

    I have an 8.1 TSH but my T4, free is 1.07 so I was prescribed the liothyronine to raise my T3 level. I have tried taking for T4 synthyroid, makes right neck glands swell and get puffy so dr. and stopped it. Now I tried for 5 days a new med for T3 liothyronine but stopped taking it due to gland neck swelling on my right side again.

    Should I keep taking Liothyronine with goiter type swelling in my neck?

    Please let me know what to do for safety; med or no med? I increased my salt intake which I had cut back on, no salt diet for the most part which maybe caused my TSH to go up to 8.1 just since I took salt out of my diet.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Shirley,

      Unfortunately, I am not able to provide medical advice or recommendations regarding how you should alter your thyroid medication.

  103. Miho Franey Avatar
    Miho Franey

    Hi Dr. Childs,

    I have a general question about the best timing to get the accurate results of TSH, T3, T4. I’m on medication of Levothyroxine and Liothyronine.
    My OBGYN says I should take labs 5 hours after taking these medicine.
    My primary care doctor says it doesn’t matter. I have just taken the labs at primary care doc’s office 2 hours after taking the medicine.
    I usually take both medicine at 6 am.

    Thank you.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Miho,

      Please see this article which explains how to get accurate thyroid lab tests: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/how-to-take-your-thyroid-medication/

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