Adthyza Thyroid Medication Review: Should You Use it?
Adthyza Thyroid Medication Review_ Should You Use it

Adthyza Thyroid Medication Review: Should You Use it?

There’s a newish thyroid medication on the block that’s trying to make a name for itself. 

Meet Adthyza. 

brief overview of adthyza thyroid medication

It’s a porcine-derived prescription thyroid medication that, based on how it’s marketed, is supposed to be a cleaner alternative to the other thyroid medications on the market. 

But does it live up to the claims? Is it worth trying if you are a thyroid patient? How is different from other porcine-derived thyroid medications like NP thyroid and Armour thyroid? 

Let’s find out!

A quick little disclaimer before we do, though. 

You should know that I have no connection with Adthyza in any way shape or form. 

The information you are reading here is 100% unbiased and based on my own opinions. 

I have never received monetary compensation from a pharmaceutical company nor do I plan to at any point in the future. 

With that in mind, let’s jump in: 

What is Adthyza?

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So what is Adthyza?

It’s a prescription thyroid medication designed to treat hypothyroidism and low thyroid states

As I mentioned previously, it is a porcine-derived medication which means it falls into the camp of Natural Desiccated Thyroid medications like NP thyroid and Armour thyroid

If you knew nothing else about Adthyza, this would be a good thing because it means that it contains more than just T4-only thyroid medications like levothyroxine and Synthroid

This is important because in order to compare apples to apples, we really want to compare how Adthyza stacks up to Armour thyroid and NP thyroid and not just levothyroxine. 

In most cases, Adthyza will be a superior option compared to T4-only thyroid medications by virtue of the fact that it contains T3. 

Adthyza seeks to take it a step further, though, by suggesting, through marketing on its website, that it may be a cleaner alternative to those already on the market. 

Per its website, Adthyza claims to be lactose-free, gluten-free, corn-free, dye-free, and latex-free. 

adthyza allergy claims

Beyond these claims, Adthyza also states that the manufacturer undergoes strict batch-to-batch quality control measures to ensure the potency of T4 and T3 levels. 

This is no doubt a nod at the recent recalls of NP thyroid and Nature-throid (1) that have occurred over the last few years due to sub-potent and super-potent lots. 

They don’t specify the exact measures taken to ensure these standards, but if this is the case, then it would be a net positive for the NDT community which did suffer some reputational blows from the recent recalls. 

It’s not just the NDT formulations that suffer from recalls, though, as Tirosint-Sol (a T4-only thyroid medication) also had to recall several lots just last month for sub potency (2). 

In either event, Adthyza definitely succeeds in differentiating itself from levothyroxine and Synthroid which do contain plenty of additional dyes (with the exception of the 50mcg tablet). 

So this is definitely a step in the right direction. 

The only problem is that its main competitors (Armour thyroid and NP thyroid) don’t have any dyes either, so that isn’t really a selling point for thyroid patients who are already taking these NDT formulations. 

I’ll go over some of the things that I like and dislike about Adthyza in a minute but, for now, let’s focus on the ingredient list. 

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Adthyza Ingredient list:

How does Adthyza stack up to Armour thyroid and NP thyroid? Here’s the complete ingredient list provided by them: 

Active ingredients in Adthyza (3): 

  • Tetraiodothyronine (T4)
  • Triiodothyronine (T3)

Inactive ingredients in Adthyza: 

  • Calcium stearate
  • Colloidal silicon dioxide
  • Dextrose
  • Mannitol
  • Microcrystalline cellulose
  • Sodium starch glycolate
inactive ingredients found in adthyza

For comparison, here are the active and inactive ingredients found in both Armour thyroid and NP Thyroid: 

Active ingredients in Armour thyroid (4): 

  • Tetraiodothyronine (T4)
  • Triiodothyronine (T3)

Inactive ingredients in Armour thyroid: 

  • Calcium stearate
  • Dextrose
  • Sodium starch glycolate
  • Opadry white
inactive ingredients found in armour thyroid

Active ingredients in NP thyroid: 

  • Tetraiodothyronine (T4)
  • Triiodothyronine (T3)

Inactive ingredients in NP thyroid:

  • Calcium stearate
  • Dextrose Monohydrate
  • Maltodextrin
  • Mineral oil
inactive ingredients found in np thyroid

From a numbers standpoint, Adthyza doesn’t do well as it contains 6 total inactive ingredients compared to 4 total inactive ingredients in Armour thyroid and 4 total inactive ingredients in NP thyroid. 

While it’s not necessarily about the number of ingredients but instead how likely those ingredients are to cause problems, it’s still worth mentioning that the higher number of inactive ingredients the higher probability you have as a patient to react to them. 

Based on my reading, I haven’t seen any material suggesting the T2 content in Adthyza so I can’t comment on that aspect but from this data, there doesn’t seem to be anything special about its ingredient profile. 

I will say, though, that having additional options, regardless of their ingredients, is still a good thing. 

Especially in the face of shortages in Nature-throid and WP thyroid, it’s nice to have a third alternative to Armour thyroid and NP thyroid. 

More choices are always better for thyroid patients. 

How is Adthyza Dosed?

Adthyza is dosed similarly to Nature-throid and WP thyroid in that each grain is 65mg. 

This is slightly different from Armour thyroid and NP thyroid in which each grain is 60mg. 

Don’t let the mg dosing confuse you because 1 grain contains 9 mcg of T3 and 38 mcg of T4 regardless of whether the mg dosing is 60mg or 65mg. 

Beyond the standard grain dosing, Adthyza comes in 5 different strengths: 

  • 16.25 mg (1/4 grain)
  • 32.5 mg (1/2 grain)
  • 65 mg (1 grain)
  • 97.5 mg (1.5 grain)
  • 130 mg (2 grains)

This can be compared to Armour thyroid which comes in the following strengths (5): 

  • 1/4 grain
  • 1/2 grain
  • 1 grain
  • 1 1/2 grain
  • 2 grain
  • 3 grain
  • 4 grain
  • 5 grain
armour thyroid available doses and strengths

Even though there are additional strengths for Armour thyroid, those higher-end doses aren’t used as often so that isn’t really a deal breaker one way or the other. 

It just means that if you are taking an uncommon dose and if you are using Adthyza that you will need to likely take multiple strengths to achieve your ideal dose. 

What I like: 

While I’m not going to run around singing the praises of Adthyza just yet, there are a few things that I do like about this thyroid medication: 

#1. The recognition that up to 10-15% of thyroid patients don’t do well on T4-only thyroid medications. 

This is definitely a step in the right direction coming from a major pharmaceutical company. 

It seems that one of their major marketing points is that T4-only thyroid medication isn’t sufficient to eliminate hypothyroid symptoms in 10-15% of patients (6). 

Even though you and I have known this for a long time, it’s good to see its recognition by the conventional side of things even if it is just a marketing tactic. 

For those not away, you can learn more about why T4-only thyroid medications are insufficient for many thyroid patients and why thyroid medications that contain T3 can help solve this issue

#2. The ability to look up testing results on the lot you are taking. 

Worth mentioning is that, as a thyroid patient, you have the ability to look up the testing results for the lot of Adthyza you are currently taking. 

adthyza transparency and lot lookup program

This is certainly in response to the lack of trust that has been brewing from thyroid patients over the last several years in regards to sub-potent and superpotent lots of NDT. 

This look-up feature allows you to input the lot you are using into a search field which will then spit out the testing results from that lot. 

This means you can rest easy knowing that your medication contains the ingredients that it says it does. 

To my knowledge, this search feature is not available for NP thyroid or Armour thyroid. 

Lot testing and lookup have been available in the supplement industry and it’s good to see this starting for prescription medications as well.

It just helps to build trust and transparency in a system that has lost a lot of credibility over the last few years.  

#3. The attempt to clean up thyroid medications by reducing inactive fillers and binders. 

Even though I don’t think they did a great job in this area, I still commend them for at least giving it a try. 

Right now it looks more like a marketing tactic than anything else, but I’m giving them credit for the thought because it means they are aware that thyroid patients are looking for cleaner alternatives than what is currently available. 

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I’ve long been critical of the inactive ingredients, binders, and fillers that can be found in thyroid medications including common allergens like lactose!

It seems absolutely crazy to include lactose in a medication designed for patients who have increased rates of allergies to that very ingredient. 

Not all thyroid medications contain lactose but notable offenders include SynthroidNature-throid, and WP thyroid

#4. The recognition that thyroid medication must be taken appropriately for it to be effective. 

This isn’t always a problem but I’m still blown away by how many thyroid patients take their thyroid medication incorrectly

The manufacturer of Adthyza has some pretty good recommendations on their website for how to use thyroid medication appropriately. 

They recommend: 

  • Taking Adthyza at the same time of day with 8 ounces of water. 
  • Taking Adthyza on an empty stomach at least 30-60 minutes away from eating or drinking anything other than water. 
  • Waiting 2 hours to take Adthyza if you’ve already eaten. 
  • Avoid taking Adthyza within 4 hours of any supplement that contains calcium, antacids, iron, or cholestyramine. 

These are basic recommendations that apply to all thyroid medications but it’s still good to see them bring awareness to these simple facts.

#5. The fact that there are more options available for thyroid patients. 

Finally, I’m going to give them credit for creating a new thyroid medication period. 

In a world where endocrinologists and conventional medicine is trying to push the levothyroxine-only treatment paradigm, it’s nice to see at least one new option available. 

This gives me hope that newer (better) and cleaner thyroid medications may be around the corner

What I don’t like: 

#1. It’s not much cleaner than other alternatives already available. 

As much as I hate to say it, after looking at the ingredient list, I can’t really say that Adthyza is a super clean thyroid medication. 

If that’s what they were going for, they could have done a lot better. 

#2. The price. 

I’m all for the creation of new thyroid medications but they need to be priced appropriately. 

The problem is that even though these newer medications are likely much more effective than medications like levothyroxine, the simple fact is that they are out of reach for the majority of people. 

I’m a huge advocate of investing in your own health, even if that means making sacrifices and adjusting the budget, but the truth is there will be people who can’t afford better options because levothyroxine is priced at $4 per month (and even cheaper, in some cases). 

The good news is that Adthyza does have a savings program in which they state that you can get it for as little as $1 per day, but that still puts a month’s supply at $30 compared to levothyroxine at $4 or less. 

90 day price of levothyroxine from amazon pharmacy

I hate to see thyroid patients feel poorly because they can’t afford more expensive prescription medications. 

Goodrx.com puts the average cost of a 30-day supply of 1 grain of Adthyza around $35.00: 

cost of 1 month of adthyza from local pharmacies on goodrx

For comparison, a 30-day supply of Armour thyroid is around the same price:

1 month supply of 1 grain of armour thyroid

A 30-day supply of NP thyroid, on the other hand, is the cheapest of all three options with some prices as low as $14 for a month’s supply of the same strength and dose: 

the cost of a 1 month supply of NP thyroid

#3. Limited strengths. 

Another potential limitation to the use of Adthyza is the limited strengths available. 

As I mentioned previously, this isn’t a deal breaker but there are situations in which it may be necessary to take several tablets to reach the desired dose and strength. 

For those who don’t have any issues swallowing tablets, this isn’t an issue but there’s no shortage of adults who have problems swallowing capsules and tablets (7) that may have a problem with this. 

#4. Their marketing is not very… robust.

I’ve spent the last 8 years living and breathing everything thyroid related and the release of this medication almost slipped under my radar. 

I’m not sure what is going on with the marketing of this medication but perhaps they should consider spending some money to get this information in front of thyroid patients. 

These pharmaceutical companies are using the old way of marketing which is to go directly to the doctors but they fail to understand the importance of the community in driving the spread of information. 

This is a minor issue, but it seems strange to release a new thyroid medication into the ether where it’s barely noticed. 

Should You Use it?

It all comes down to this: 

Are the benefits of using Adthyza strong enough to warrant switching from whatever thyroid medication you are currently taking? 

As always, it depends on your personal situation but here are a few things to consider: 

Are you currently well-managed with whatever thyroid medication you are taking? 

If the answer is no, then it would be worth giving this new thyroid medication a try. 

Do you have a known or suspected allergy to an ingredient in your current formulation of thyroid medication? 

If the answer is yes, then giving Adthyza might be worth a shot. 

Have you tried other thyroid medications in the past but have been unable to get to 100% regardless of which one you use? 

If the answer is yes, then giving Adthyza may be worth a shot. 

Outside of these guidelines, I don’t see any other strong reasons for wanting to switch thyroid medications. 

Based on everything I am seeing from the marketing of this medication, I’m optimistic but not overly enthusiastic. 

I don’t want to be too harsh, though, because I do think it’s very important for new pharmaceutical companies to see that there is interest in new thyroid medications. 

If they see this interest then they may be more likely to create newer and better thyroid medications in the future which means more options for thyroid patients. 

Now I want to hear from you: 

What do you think about this new thyroid medication? 

Is this the first time you’ve heard about it? 

Are you planning on giving it a try? Why or why not? 

What kind of thyroid medication are you currently taking? 

Leave your questions or comments below! 

Scientific References

#1. fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/rlc-labs-inc-issues-voluntary-nationwide-recall-all-lots-nature-throidr-and-wp-thyroidr-current

#2. fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/ibsa-pharma-inc-issues-voluntary-nationwide-recall-select-lots-tirosintr-sol-levothyroxine-sodium

#3. adthyza.com/hcp/media/pdf/ADTHYZA-PI.pdf

#4. rxabbvie.com/pdf/armour_thyroid_pi.pdf

#5. reference.medscape.com/drug/armour-thyroid-thyroid-usp-thyroid-desiccated-342736

#6. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31354624/

#7. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7810703/

should you use the new thyroid medication adthyza

Comments

92 responses to “Adthyza Thyroid Medication Review: Should You Use it?”

  1. If a dosage of 1 grain = 65mg, how does that breakdown between t3 and t4 dosages?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Pat,

      1 grain is standardized to contain 38 mcg of T4 and 9 mcg of T3 in all NDT formulations regardless of the mg dose.

      1. Adinah Caro-Greene Avatar
        Adinah Caro-Greene

        then what is the other 5mg? Like NP Thyroid, 1 grain = 60mg, but Adthyza 1 grain = 65mg, so what is the other 5mg you’re getting if not active hormone?

        1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
          Dr. Westin Childs

          Hi Adinah,

          Other ingredients, inactive fillers/binders, and excipients. The hormones are dosed in mcg, so the actual volume of hormone in any capsule is quite small. 1,000 mcg is equal to 1 mg, and the dosing of T4 and T3 is usually < 100 mcg/capsule. The average capsule can fit around 500 to 700mg worth of ingredients.

  2. jrborenz Avatar
    jrborenz

    NP Thyroid is super cheap on insurance, even cheaper than the name brand Levos. I also didn’t hear anything about this newish NDT, wasn’t until someone mentioned it on a UK thyroid forum and you’re correct about the lack of advertising. I could barely find anything on an internet search. Personally, what I’d like to see are more dose ranges sold in the US for Liothyronine like 10mcg and 20mcg pills. Also, would like to see smaller doses of Levo like 5 mcg to add onto large doses. Alternating two different doses has never worked for me. I need what I need daily-not too much one day and not enough the next. Currently, I’m on 35mcg T3 and just half a tab of 75mcg T4.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jrborenz,

      I always reference the cash price because insurance prices tend to vary. But I do agree that additional doses and strengths of many types of thyroid medications would be a welcome addition.

      1. jrborenz Avatar
        jrborenz

        Very true, I prefer to use GoodRx over my insurance when buying Liothyronine.

  3. My endocrinologist just told me about this in my follow up yesterday. She didn’t tell me anything that would benefit me except that after long term usage, NP thyroid affects the heart and kidneys and Adthyza doesn’t. I haven’t done a deep dive to see the studies about that yet. My doctor also says she would never prescribe NP thyroid to any patient, but since I came to her after nearly 15 years with a naturopath treating me with NP thyroid that she’d continue prescribing it for me. (I’m not clear why that is other than what she said about organ damage.) Otherwise, I don’t see any benefits to changing meds as I feel well controlled with NP thyroid.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jackie,

      Adthyza and NP thyroid contain almost identical ingredients so their side effects would be very similar. I’ve never seen any research that suggests long-term use of NDT causes heart or kidney problems. The side effects of thyroid medication use are primarily driven by the dose, not the medication itself.

      1. Thank you so much Dr. Westin for clarifying this. There’s so much misinformation and contradictory information out there that it feels impossible at times to make sense of it all, even for those of us who do our best to educate and inform ourselves. So I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us!

        1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
          Dr. Westin Childs

          Hi KJ,

          Happy to help!

    2. Adinah Caro-Greene Avatar
      Adinah Caro-Greene

      I just wonder how your endo would know that, since Adthyza just came out, and we don’t really know the long-term affects yet.

  4. Angie F. Avatar
    Angie F.

    First of all, just let me state that I and many others have experienced many inconsistencies with Armour since late 2021. Consistent complaints include new onset anxiety and panic, inconsistent TSH and free hormone levels, insomnia, and mood instability. So a potential alternative is very welcome for many of us.
    About mid-2021, Medisca arrived in the compounding pharmacy scene with a new thyroid powder announcing a new “extraction technique”. The most technical definition of extraction is exchange with a solvent. Also about that time, Medisca announced a partnership with Abbott, parent company to Allergan who has for sometime been unwilling to say where their raw material is coming from. It is noteworthy to state that Medisca’s raw material comes from Sichuan Deebio, a Chinese manufacturer.
    One question that has come up repeatedly on thyroid forums is whether we are now receiving a T4 and T3 “extract” as opposed to full gland in response to the FDA’s thyroglobulin concerns? Quite by accident, I had labs done recently that flagged TGB low which should not be the case on NDT. And, is the terminology switch from “NDT” to “NTE” significant? The medicine we now receive no longer has its characteristic porky odor. Folks have complained about a medicinal or even solvent taste. And, like MANY others, my free T3 levels especially are much higher than they were in larger doses of older formulations. It would be beneficial to have these questions answered.
    I have appealed to well known thyroid patient advocate sites to no avail and who doggedly insist that any problems are patient centered and a result of iron, cortisol issues or simply patients not being “optimal”. I don’t believe this is the case because a reinstitution of older meds resolved problems for many.
    If most, or all preps are now “extracts” no longer delivering the additional benefits of T1, T2, and calcitonin, or even thyroglobulin, which some studies indicate act as an SR agent for T3, then there is no longer much benefit in porcine preps over synthetic combos.
    Interested to hear your thoughts.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Angie,

      It’s really difficult to get that sort of information regarding the exact extraction technique, but if you are correct then it is very likely that they are standardizing only the T4 and T3 component and this version of NDT (if it would even be considered NDT at that point) would be more similar to compounded T4 and T3. This could be seen as a relatively good thing, though, because it means that conventional physicians might be more likely to prescribe it which would be an overall net benefit to the thyroid community even if it’s not as potent as previous NDT formulations. It would obviously be bad for those who were previously controlled on NDT, though. Worst case scenario, those who were controlled on NDT can add additional T2 and thyroid glandular to their regimen in an attempt to re-create the older formula.

      I’ll see if I can do more research on the extraction technique and what that means for the final product and how it compares to true NDT formulations. If I find any new information, I will post it here.

      1. Angie F. Avatar
        Angie F.

        FYI, I have already contacted Azurity who, to their credit was very willing to entertain my questions. They tell me that their raw material source is Danish and that both the preparation and glands are obtained from Denmark and are subject to EU/CGMP regulations and protocols. They have not answered my question, as yet, regarding whether we are receiving dessicated whole gland or “extract”, but have committed to doing so and I expect to hear back from them on that next week.

        I want to be clear. The question of whether we are now receiving extract or whole gland is not unique to Azurity/AdThyza. As I already stated, I had thyroglobulin (not antibodies to, but TGB) flagged low on Armour which should not be the case on NDT. Since late 2021, and especially after mid last year, I and others are experiencing Armour, after taking it for decades now, very differently than in the past and seeing much higher levels of free hormone (esp Free T3) on lower doses. The complaints seem to indicate, at least to me, that there is a higher peak absorption, particularly of T3 than in the past; anxiety/panic, fast HR, higher BP, etc.

        As I said, there is at least one study out there that seems to indicate that TGB acts as a sustained release agent, especially for T3, thereby slowing absorption and inhibiting “peaks” (and defacto valleys). If TGB has been removed or reduced, adding T2 into the equation will not solve the problems many are experiencing and may even worsen them. And potential missing calcitonin may also be a factor. As far as I know, the only calcitonin prep available on the market is “MiaCalcin” which is used for bone loss and is derived from salmon.

        Interestingly enough, in my entire 26 year history as a autoimmune thyroid patient, I have never seen positive anti-TGB antibodies on my many, many panels. I am seeing that now. Still perplexed as to why that is. Med change? or AI compounded issues due to COVID vax.

        1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
          Dr. Westin Childs

          Hi Angie,

          There are many factors outside of your medication that could influence your anti-thyroglobulin levels, including changes in your stress levels, sleep, lifestyle, diet, changes in hormone levels from menopause, exposure to endocrine disruptors, heavy metals, etc. I wouldn’t be so fast to assume it’s your thyroid medication that is responsible, though it could be the case. I would also say the rule is that thyroid medication dosing changes throughout one’s life and that constant dosing is the exception to that rule as explained here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/you-cant-stay-on-the-same-thyroid-medication-dose-forever/

          In other words, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that you are no longer doing as well as you once were on your armour thyroid given that your body and hormones change over time and due to the influence of various factors.

          1. Angie F. Avatar
            Angie F.

            Thanks Dr. Childs. While I don’t know for sure what contributed to AI exacerbation and new onset anti-TBG antibodies, I lean heavily toward the conclusion that my PfzBNT boosters were the primary catalyst. If you’re not already aware, please know that there are now many published anecdotals re thyroiditis (subacute, Graves, and Hashimoto’s) onset following mRNA COVID vaccines.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8960081/

            FYI, I have spoken with Azurity again and they have confirmed that their product, while not “whole gland” (they remove non-useful portions) is glandular and does contain Thyroglobulin. They do not standardize for T1, T2, and calcitonin nor thyroglobulin, only T4 and T3, but it is my guess that the new script will contain in trace amounts as did the “old” Armour. Azurity did confirm that their product still contained thyroglobulin.

            I passed.along collective worries to them regarding the use of mannitol as an excipient in AdThyza. The person I spoke with committed to escalation of our concerns.

            I’m going to give this medicine a try. I’m very happy with Azurity responsiveness (they entertained 4 calls from me, got back to me promptly with answers, and were as polite and helpful as could be) and again, the many recent problems with Armour have me wondering whether this is a problem inherent in a new formula or API.

          2. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
            Dr. Westin Childs

            Hi Angie,

            That’s great information! Thanks for sharing.

        2. Shonna Avatar
          Shonna

          My doctor (functional naturopath) has always told me that since my thyroid condition is autoimmune, (body attacks thyroid gland), that the types of medication which contain actual dessicated thyroid are not advised because you wouldn’t want to take more of something that your body is attacking (i.e. thyroid hormone). I suspect this might be what is going on with you, makes sense to me that antibodies would be elevated (level of attack on body) with the use of actual thyroid gland. I have tried to find information about this very thing on Dr. Childs site, but so far not much.

          1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
            Dr. Westin Childs

            Hi Shonna,

            It’s rare that taking NDT flares up thyroid antibodies but it does happen. I’ve discussed this concept in videos but I don’t think I’ve written about them to date. It’s not the thyroid hormones that causes the issue but the animal antigens contained in NDT formulations that are the likely culprit.

      2. Deborah McKnight Avatar
        Deborah McKnight

        I am looking for a new NDT as I’ve had nothing but trouble since WP went off the market. I have Mass cell and am highly allergic so I went to compounded porcine with avicel. Unfortunately my TSH levels went all over the place this last year and has caused me tremendous health problems. I also had my thyroid removed due to cancer. I’m wondering which medication you would advise me to try as I’ve been miserable.

    2. Katrina Avatar
      Katrina

      Hi Angie,
      Can you please direct me to where you’ve been able to learn about those complaints from people taking Armour since late 2021. I literally have been struggling with everything you mentioned, and as I had recently went back on my full dose of Armour and noticed these symptoms really revved up (anxiety, insomnia, etc), I was thinking it may have to do with the Armour. I would like to read more or know where to read and what people are doing instead. My NP actually just prescribed me a lower-dose of thyroid med from a compounded pharmacy. I’m trying to wean off, and tried to wean myself off of Armour over the past year, but had to stop when I started having serious constipation issues complicated by a fissure, hemorrhoid flares, etc. Not even sure if that was directly related or not, but couldn’t stand the bowel issues anymore, so went back on full dose of Armour just in case. Thank you for your time and help.

  5. Dr Westin – I have been in the same 75mg levothyroxine/synthroid dose for 17 years.
    I am not converting T4 to T3 well. We
    tried adding T3 to my protocol once at .5 Mcg but I had anxiety/rapid heart rate and discontinued.

    I don’t feel well at all on Synthroid and Levo. Last test I had antibodies and was told I now have Hashimotos. I also have a nodule starting ( ultrasound showed).

    Would the T3 in NP, Armor or this new drug also cause anxiety/heart issues in someone sensitive to .5 mcg T3 or does combining them somehow calm the higher amount of t3 in them so the body would react more positively?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jess,

      It’s possible, yes. T3 in all its iterations tends to cause issues for those who are on the more sensitive side. The best option for this type of situation is usually sustained release T3 if T3 is needed: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/sustained-release-t3/

  6. Michele S Avatar
    Michele S

    Thank you for all that you do! I am researching options as my insurance just changed the Tier that my NP thyroid was on. Instead of paying $10/month, insurance won’t cover NP and I will have to pay cash at the rate of approximately $86/month. Frustrating. So, I will maybe try Adthyza to see if it likes me. I also remember hearing one of your podcasts about making my own but believe that may be outside of my wheelhouse! Thanks again!

  7. Rhonda Caywood Avatar
    Rhonda Caywood

    Dr. Childs,
    It is not FDA-approved. See the following website called NATIONAL DRUG CODE DIRECTORY: Current through April 25, 2023, it is updated daily.
    “You have searched Finished drug products”
    Search Results: ‘Adthyza’
    https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ndc/dsp_searchresult.cfm
    All of the doses are listed and all state “UNAPPROVED DRUG OTHER”.
    Also in the National Drug Code Directory: Current through April 25, 2023 Armour Thyroid has the same “UNAPPROVED DRUG OTHER” designation, as does NP Thyroid. WP Thyroid and Nature-throid are NOT listed at all.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Rhonda,

      Yes, I’m aware. The only thyroid medications that are FDA approved are the T4-only thyroid medications. The NDT formulations are given a ‘pass’ because they have been around for so long.

  8. Hi Dr. Childs,
    I think there are many of us who used to believe that to be the case. However, there are several FDA website links that deny any unapproved drug has been grandfathered in. https://www.fda.gov/drugs/enforcement-activities-fda/unapproved-drugs
    states “The law allows some unapproved prescription drugs to be lawfully marketed if they meet the criteria of generally recognized as safe and effective (GRASE) or grandfathered. However, the agency is not aware of any human prescription drug that is lawfully marketed as grandfathered.”
    How can this be? I don’t have the answer. But over the past few years, the FDA is making it more difficult for some NDTs to continue manufacturing their products ever since they changed the designation of Medication to Biologics. The cost of converting machinery to manufacture a biologic was too much for RLC Labs, a small company located in Cave Creek, AZ.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Rhonda,

      I just use the term grandfathered to mean that they allow for the production of NDT medications. If they didn’t then no one would be able to create them and that’s obviously not the case. If you are just suggesting that this lack of clarity allows them to potentially exert power over the production of NDT, I would definitely agree with that but I don’t have any explanation for why this is currently the case.

      1. Dr Westin, many of us long term NDT prescription users have been tracking the actions of big pharma. There was an under the radar letter within the fda govt hierarchy (not top dog but under him have to find the letter again) but the gist of it all was the FDA is trying to reclassify NDT as a biological. It truly is about money and power never about health and wellness 🙁 sure do appreciate all your information and all you do!! TYVM!!
        Thyroidless Teri

  9. Victoria Avatar
    Victoria

    Well,
    My doctor gave me samples of this and I seemed to do really well. Then the actual script from their patient program came in. I had a severe delayed allergic response with rash, severe edema of lips, cracking burning and rash on trunk. I thought it was something else, lived on diphenhydramine for a week and almost went to the ER yesterday for severe adverse reaction (SJS/serum sickness/delayed severe allergic reaction.) I didn’t take it today and swelling, rash, pain, sloughing erythematous tissue is gone. I’m trying to get Tirosint and Cytomel. My integrative doctor’s office won’t let me speak to my doctor (who is managing this). I’m fed up. Been on NDT, then NDT + Cytomel. I want Tirosint and Cytomel. Finances are an issue, but with literally no thyroid (TT 13 years ago), I can’t go without it, but I’m either allergic or doesn’t work anymore. WHY?! Why were the great NDT’s messed with? I am so, so, so frustrated. My comment is beware: the samples seem fine, but the actual script is apparently different and apparently inferior. Here we go again.

    1. David Avatar
      David

      That’s interesting. I also had to discontinue Adthyza because of a bad adverse reaction.
      I felt really good with it in the beginning however, I developed severe ear pain and ringing within 4-5 days. I literally couldn’t do anything because of the pain.

      The pain fortunately subsided within a few days after discontinuation. I also understand your frustration with finding the right medication because it has been so hard for me as well. In the mean time, I temporarily reverted back to my over the counter desiccated beef thyroid product until I can figure out what to do.

      Please let me know if you end up trying the Tirosint and Cytomel and what your response is. Hope all goes well with you!

      1. Victoria Avatar
        Victoria

        Hi David, My physician put me on the requested Tirosint + Cytomel. It’s going take a while for full effect, but so far no Stevens-Johnson’s/anaphylaxis reactions. With this combination, I’m also taking Dr. Child’s’ Thyroidectomy Bundle and protein powder (see his post about recreating NDT). I’m not 100% for obvious reasons due to med change yet, but I’m doing much better. On the NDT front in the US: I discovered some interesting things about “biologic”reclassification and stopping it by 2029 if certain conditions aren’t met. You can research that. I’m fairly certain what we used to love is forever gone in the US. I’m sticking with Dr. Childs and his education.

    2. Bobbi Avatar
      Bobbi

      Thank you for your experience while taking this! I’m starting today and on the lookout for side effects. On a side note, when I tried tirosint samples the doctor gave me, they worked great! I lost weight and felt really good with only a few tolerable side effects. Once I started the script from the pharmacy it was a nightmare, like a totally different medication all together. Good luck to you and hope if works well.

    3. Christine Avatar
      Christine

      Hi Victoria, please get tested for Alpha-gal Syndrome . It’s an allergy syndrome that causes delayed onset allergic reactions to any mammal derived food or ingredients, including analysis in some people. It’s caused by the bite of a Lone Star Tick, or any other Tick, chiggers, and sometimes even fleas. If you notice an upset stomach, itchiness, stuffy nose, asthma, or even just a panicked feeling about 4 hours after eating any mammal meat, you might have this allergy and would also be allergic to animal derived thyroid medications. Hope you feel better!

  10. Julie Nelson Avatar
    Julie Nelson

    Dr.Child’s,
    i’m pleased to see you review Adthyza a new NDT thyroid replacement therapy. i have Hashimotos and have been on thyroid replacement for over 30 years. As such i am in a very late stage and my thyroid is probably very reduced in size. (I’m actually having an ultrasound in the next few days)
    Needless to say i have experienced every effect, lack of effect, side effect, of the thyroid preparations i have tried/ taken. The best replacement that i ever used was WP thyroid. I had just gotten my dosage balanced and feeling GREAT when the FDA messed with the company and it was discontinued. We don’t know if the company will ever bring it back on the market. So i am very pleased to learn there is another Rx NDT available. i contacted a compounding pharmacy in CA last year about obtaining NDT thyroid from them. They told me they were not able to compound NDT thyroid at that time because of the FDA. Do you know what this status is?
    I am currently struggling with Armour thyroid which you know has gone through another change of manufacturer. A recent change in lot number has improved its efficacy i believe HOWEVER i have also started taking T2, thymine, selenium and B12 at your recommendation. I am currently feeling quite good and have most of my normal energy back. i’ve also lost 12-13. pounds – something i haven’t been able to do for over 20 years. It’s a continuing saga and i dread getting a new lot number of Armour Thyroid.
    Thank you for providing all the critical information to everyone who is dealing with disrupted thyroid function.
    JG

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Julie,

      That is likely just a pharmacy specific issue or an issue in California. There are compounding pharmacies in Arizona that compound NDT and other combination thyroid hormones.

  11. Bobbi Avatar
    Bobbi

    I’ve been prescribed and took my first dose today. I’m leery. Been on thyroid meds for 35 years. Tried them all, have reacted adversely to all at one point or another. My most recent best experience was T.R.MANN which was made in and I ordered from Taiwan. They quit manufacturing it. It only had sugar as the inactive ingredient. A very small tiny amount of sugar surrounding the porcine thyroid part. It made me feel so normal. Since my TRMANN ran out I’ve tried Tirosint, NDT, Armour, Cytomel. Synthroid, Levothyroxine. They all give me watery eyes, high blood pressure, severe headaches, fatigue, swelling, depression, blurry vision, arthritis and gout like symptoms. To just name a few side effects. It’s horrific. I took Armour, around 13 years ago. Felt great that time, but then they changed something and my health deteriorated rapidly. I’m trying to be positive about this new Adthyza but I’m doubtful because of the same to similar inactive ingredients. I do believe it’s always the inactive ingredients that are the problem. Why more of the same stuff? The sugar coated pills worked wonderful, went down and passed through peacefully. Good luck to all

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Bobbi,

      I’m not really sure why they keep using similar ingredients but, hopefully, they follow Tirosint’s lead and make cleaner NDT formulations in the future.

      1. Bobbi Avatar
        Bobbi

        Thank you for your reply. That would be amazing if they did! So far Adthyza is working well! I haven’t experienced the fatigue, headaches, eye pain nor the painful joints and arthritis like symptoms I’ve had with most of the others. My hair started to fall dramatically for a couple days(which I anticipated) but that has eased up as well. I’m holding my breath, but so far so good! I’m glad I tried it! I am very thankful for your article and comments from you and others!

  12. Angel Avatar
    Angel

    I did not have a chance to read through the comments. Do we know from where the pigs sourced? Is Adthyza manufactured in the USA, etc?

  13. Hi Dr. Childs,
    So as I read the comment earlier about no calcium within 4 hours of medication does that mean with breakfast there can be no milk? Or is it just supplement form? I have always had cereal with milk after waiting an hour so if you could clarify for me that would be great.

  14. Gail C Nelson Avatar
    Gail C Nelson

    Would never use Adthyza. I always have to check inactive ingredients. I saw Mannitol and looked no further.

  15. Their website doesn’t list gluten-free anymore.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi K.H.,

      Thanks for pointing that out, I will have to take a look and see what changed. It may just be that they can’t claim gluten free without testing below the set range of 20 ppm or something similar.

  16. Danielle Meitiv Avatar
    Danielle Meitiv

    I have mixed feelings about this for myself. On the one hand, I’m excited because I’m EXTREMELY sensitive to any kind of corn-derived fillers as are many of my clients, and this medication has none.

    On the other hand, the problem I’ve personally had with NDT medications is that the ratio doesn’t work for my body. With much experimenting I’ve found that I need 85 mcg T4 and 15 mcg T3. To get enough T4 from an NDT medication, I would overdose on T3 , and to get the right amount of T3 would mean not enough T4. So I’d stilll have to add take synthetic T3, which always has corn fillers.

    Sigh…

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Danielle,

      The ratio problem can often be solved by adding an additional T3 or T4 medication to the NDT base dose.

  17. Tiffani Avatar
    Tiffani

    I switched from being on armor (for the last 3 years or so) to Adthysa because I noticed things were not right. In February/January my hashimotos/ hypo symptoms were coming back and I felt terrible. Finally got in for some bloodwork and all my levels had tanked and my antibodies were the highest they’d ever been. Something has changed in the Armor for sure. In the last 2 months Adthysa has brought things back to normal for me and I feel so much better. Thank you Dr Child’s for releasing the YouTube video on Adthysa the DAY I was at my wits end trying to find another NDT to try and almost switched to synthetic.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Tiffani,

      Glad to hear it’s working for you! Thanks for sharing.

  18. Donna Houchins Avatar
    Donna Houchins

    Doesn’t sound much different from my NP thyroid. I’ve been on 90mg, 5 days a week and 45 mg twice a week for over 4 years now. I do take your T3 conversion booster on occasion and that seems to keep things under control.
    Never heard of this new med till now. I currently get 90 days of my NP thyroid for $20 through insurance so I’ll stay with what I got

  19. I miss NatureThroid by RLC Labs. It was cheaper than NP Thyroid and I needed less. I don’t have a thyroid so I’m dependent on these Rxs. I have to take 2 90mg NT at 5 AM plus 88 mcg Levothyroxine plus 120 mg NT mid afternoon. It’s expensive but every time I drop my dose I experience hypo symptoms. My cancer endocrinologist is horrified at how much I take but I have a local doctor who is willing to prescribe based on symptoms.

  20. Cindy Avatar
    Cindy

    Hi Dr. Westin,

    At a precursory glance, would you suggest a Hashimotos patient try this? I had a bad reaction to Armour by way of mood instability and increased bone/joint pain and a few others

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Cindy,

      It’s more about the individual patient than it is the condition. And, unfortunately, it’s very difficult how to predict how any person will react to any thyroid medication without some trial and error.

  21. Jackie Avatar
    Jackie

    I use a compounded thyroid medication since Naturethroid became unavailable. Unfortunately, I never felt great using Armour or NP Thyroid. It is nice not having to deal with additives and fillers, but it costs $165 dollars for a 30 day supply of the compounded medication and insurance doesn’t cover it. Will Naturethroid ever come back?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jackie,

      It’s possible it may come back. If it ever happens, I will send out an email and let everyone know.

  22. Renee Avatar
    Renee

    This is the first I’ve heard of this new medicine. It’s good to know there is something new on the market similar to naturthroid which for me was the perfect medication. I convinced my internist to add cytomel to my tiroscint prescription awhile ago and was doing well or so I thought. However, there was an increase in the size of a nodule seen during an ultrasound … a routine ultrasound since I had not had one in six or more years. Anyhow…my internist referred my to an endocrinologist to evaluate the very slight growth of the node and the endocrinologist insisted that I needed to go on synthroid which has never worked particularly well for me. Anyhow, he convinced my internist to switch my meds and regardless of my insistence that I was feeling quite well on the t4 plus t3, I am now on synthroid. I am disappointed in my internist and I am fairly certain he won’t be very open to trying ANYTHING other than the synthroid that the endocrinologist wants we to take. I’ve gained ten pounds since the switch (in April) and have had several flares of uveitis and autoimmune issues which I am attributing to the lack of proper thyroid replacements. I certainly have more symptoms and particularly feel more fatigued since the change. I am looking for a new doctor too but feel very reluctant to start over with another internist or GP as until now, my doctor has been flexible and willing to try different treatments and I quite like him. I feel like endocrinologists in general are stuck on the synthroid routine and are detrimental to the good health of their thyroid patients.

  23. CimmieS Avatar
    CimmieS

    Interesting to read about the new thyroid medication. I have Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. I ingest Levothyroxine (live in Australia) & have done so for over a decade. Seems to work, except afternoon slow down. Had used porcine thyroid medications when overseas for years, but found they were hit & miss for my system. I do supplement with selenium & magnesium, follow g/f, dairy free & egg free(allergy to egg white) regime & do gentle workouts daily. Appreciate your information & readers comments.

  24. Lindsey L Avatar
    Lindsey L

    I started taking 1/4 grain of Adthyza two months ago after having adverse reactions to T4 only treatment for 2 years and never feeling quite right. I tried cytomel with synthroid for about 5 days and had awful side effects and never wanted to try again. I finally asked my doctor to switch to a NDT and knowing this was new to the market she agreed to use me as a guinea pig. So far I’m doing much better on this even with such a small dose. I’ll be doing updated bloodwork this week and will see where things are at and hopefully increase my dose. Im treating low cortisol concurrently which may be helping me tolerate the T3 better than in the past.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Lindsey,

      Glad to hear it’s helping!

  25. Mannitol in thyroid drugs is definitely a bad idea. It affects the way the body absorbs thyroid hormone. In Europe, there have been a lot of problems with the brand Teva (which contains mannitol) and also Euthyrox by Merck since it was reformulated to include mannitol. Millions of patients had to switch to a different brand after the reformulation. It was called “The great thyroid scandal” in French media.

  26. Britt Fremstad Avatar
    Britt Fremstad

    Thank you for sharing this information.
    It is a good thing with more medication to choose from, but
    this medication contains MANNITOL. I know a lot of people react to mannitol – same way as lactose. So that’s a big minus!
    I am doing well on only T3 medicaton, so for now I will not chance.

  27. Grace Matranga Avatar
    Grace Matranga

    I’m just reading this today 7/6 but I see the first comment is back from March so THANK YOU for repeating this VITAL email! I am currently on Armour 1.5 grains and just recently my T3 was low, so the dr alternated me taking 1.5 grains MWF& Sat and then 60 grains TTh & Sun… Going back to dr today to see the results of recent blood work to see if this alternating is working … I am feeling better now not sure if he is going to mention or even knows about this new drug. My question is WHY do these drugs have to CONTAIN any form of sugar?! It’s not like the pill needs it for taste purposes??! SO ANNYOING when you’re trying to watch your sugars!!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Grace,

      Sugar is often added to medications for processing and preservation. It’s a common practice in the pharmaceutical industry.

  28. Gayle Avatar
    Gayle

    So many folks are complaining about this having Mannitol in it. But really, just HOW much does it have in it, per pill? Could that really be enough to cause issues? It’s in so many food products.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Gayle,

      It’s a very small amount which wouldn’t cause an issue for most people. Some people are more sensitive to others, though, and may react to even small amounts.

  29. Wendy Miller Avatar
    Wendy Miller

    I take tirosint (75 mcg) and cytomel (15 mcg, in 3 doses during the day). My T3 and T4 blood tests show I’m in the correct range but my TSH is too high my doctor says (below .04) so she is slowly lowering my cytomel. I now leave out a pill once a week and will keep going down until my TSH is at least at .1. In the past this has not worked well as I have quickly become hypotheyroid with a TSH at 5 at one point and felt terrible. But, at 70 years old, my doctor has scared me about my heart and bones. I am wondering if this new drug could possibly help my T3 and T4 numbers be in range while also helping my TSH get to a better range? Also, it is really difficult to follow all of the rules on taking the meds. when you take them 3-4 times a day, so having them in one pill would be great. However, now I am scared about the mannitol.
    Thanks for alerting me to this new med. I will ask my doctor about it. But, I wonder if you think it would help my TSH?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Wendy,

      All thyroid medications, including this one, have the potential to raise thyroid hormone levels and lower the TSH. Whether or not the medication will work for you depends on if you are able to absorb it and how you react to the inactive binders or fillers.

  30. Thyroidless Teri Avatar
    Thyroidless Teri

    Dr Westin, this “new” ndt claims to be corn free. I have a bad allergy to corn and it’s derivatives ie cornstarch, cornsyrup, and DEXTROSE. Unless the Dextrose source is specified my pharmacy, doctors, AND ME pass!! How can they market corn free with Dextrose? Sure miss my Naturethroid. Grateful for Functional Intergrative drs and the compounding pharmacies that still compound porcine glandular ndt. Wish it was about health & wellbeing instead of money and power. Sigh.

  31. Karen Avatar
    Karen

    Thank you for that review. It’s nice to have a comparison. I have been on Armour thyroid for years. I just got recently got my blood work and my TSH dropped from 1.0 to 0.18. I didn’t realize that the collagen + multi I started taking a month ago had 100mg calcium carbonate in it. Would that amount account for my low TSH? No iron, anti acids or cholestyramine are taken by me. Thanks for your thoughts.

  32. Hi there! Dr. Childs, I so appreciate all the time and effort you put into helping us all stay educated. Your info is so helpful!

    My question… we talk a lot about fillers in thyroid meds, however, many of us are on lots of other meds too. Do typical meds (for example, I take Estradiol and Lofibra), not have those bad fillers? If they do, what are we to do about those. I personally am lactose intolerant and allergic to corn, eggs and dairy. What about typical supplements? Do they not contain those fillers?

    Thanks for any insight!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Betty,

      All prescription medications have fillers/binders and are generally just as bad, if not worse, than thyroid medications.

      Low quality supplements also contain unwanted fillers/binders. So if you are purchasing a cheaper supplement from the grocery store or from amazon, it’s very likely you are getting these fillers from those sources as well.

      I know this because I’m the one that formulates my own supplements and the cleaner fillers are always more expensive which drives the cost of supplements higher. Supplement manufacturers that try to compete on price always end up cutting corners and using more reactive fillers/binders and less active primary ingredients (like cyanocobalamin instead of methylcobalamin).

      The use of fillers/binders (termed excipients) in the pharmaceutical world is more about mass production and the manufacturing process than anything else. These fillers are used for the benefit of the machines which need to crank out hundreds of thousands to millions of capsules/tablets each day and they help them run more efficiently without getting jammed up.

  33. Hi Dr. Weston,
    Thank you for this article. I’m curious to try this medication. I had a thyroidectomy years ago but in the recent years have had trouble finding the right medicine for me. Currently I’m on 50 mg Synthroid. My recent labs are confusing. Normal range for Free T4 but low Free T3 and elevated TSH. My doctor had me increase the Synthroid but I had an elevated HR and gastric distress on only the third day of increasing to 75 mg. Anyway I’m wondering if I need more than just T4. I was hoping my body would convert to T3 but it seems to be having trouble?

    Do you think your Thyroidectomy bundle would help?

    Thank you,
    Heidi

  34. Jon McReynolds Avatar
    Jon McReynolds

    If my wife switches from Levothyroxine to Adthyza, will your supplement T3 still need to be taken?
    Also, if she is on Adthysa, will she still need to avoid biotin and kelp?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Jon,

      All of my supplements can be used with all forms of thyroid medication. It’s more about the dose that she’s taking and how she tolerates it. In pretty much every case, supplements are still beneficial when added on top of T3 containing medications.

  35. Have been a thyroid patient for 24 years after 100% RAI ablation. I’ve have run the whole gamut many times over the years when changing doctors for one reasons or another. Synthroid does not work for me because the T4 in it is not converted to T3. I feel best balanced on a fairly high dosage of Armor taken at intervals throughout the day. Maintaining T3/4 in the optimal normal range suppresses my TSH but results feeling well even though most endocrine doctors think I’m hyper with that profile. They don’t understand that, without a thyroid, “normal” TSH means I’m hypo because the pituitary is calling out for hormone. It shows up in the clinical symptoms which are all completely classic hypo. A few doctors do understand this after they’ve seen for themselves what text book protocol does to me. Unfortunately, as a patient, am at their mercy and have had to roll uphill several times while escaping the hypothyroid pit.

    I have noticed recently that I am receiving different potencies of Armor month by month. Sometimes it’s too strong so I start with the hyper symptoms, other months I’m clobbered with weak potency.

    I am going to try Adthyza in hope of leveling off the potency. Going up and down month by month can’t be good for me. Not sure if it is a manufacturing problem or a storage problem at the pharmacy. It’s worth a trying something new. It will be wonderful if it is a final good solution. I was around when Armor paused production for months and there was no alternatives for ndt other than compounding pharmacies trying to recreate the medicine with dessicated thyroid powder and T3. It was a disaster. I hope Adthyza is successful so it can provide a stable supply. Thank you for your helpful thoughts.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Wren,

      Glad you found the information helpful and thanks for sharing!

    2. Hi Wren!
      You must be my twin! I had RAI Ablation in 1989 and have suffered decades of incompetent, uneducated doctors making me sick because of their inability to read the Labs beyond just the TSH. Only once, years ago, did I have a GP agree to treat me based on clinical presentation rather than Labs alone. Not before he lowered me based on TSH so many times I nearly died, but eventually when I could literally no longer function and was presenting with multiple other ailments, he reluctantly agreed. Then he retired. So that lasted all of about 6 months.

      I’m looking for a new doc again now because the specialty clinic I currently go to has become unaffordable for me having doubled their rate to remain on their roster, so now looking for a mainstream “in-network” provider who isn’t hell bent on killing me! By now, after these many years, I don’t have hope to find someone that takes my insurance who knows anything at all about treating people who have no Thyroid gland function of their own. I’m 62 now, but look at least 10 years older and feel like I’m 100 after all these years of Thyroid imbalance, trying to find a doctor, ANY doctor, that knows there’s a difference. I’m so tired by now. It’s just crazy.

      I’m currently taking Synthroid and Cytomel because my insurance raised my price for the NP brand that was working well for me from $50 to $250. My budget doesn’t support that anymore, so back to the synthetic stuff again.

      I don’t upconvert T4 to T3 at the normal rate either, so I really need the T3, but I have NEVER had any kind of mainstream doctor, endo or otherwise, who would prescribe it for me. Never! Not once in all these 34 years! So I’ve been unnecessarily sick for decades.

      It’s just T3!! It feels like they’re truly scared of it. How can so many doctors have buried their heads so deep in the sand for so many decades? I understand they weren’t “taught” all this in school. But honestly? As research is published in their field they refuse to read it to continue their education past the last page of their textbook way back when? Totally disinterested in learning anything new? And in the big picture, its nearly ALL of them! That’s fascinating, really. Truly sad though. So many patients suffer unnecessarily because of that. It really shouldn’t be this way. Best of luck to us all.

    3. How low do you need to supress your TSH, since normal makes you feel hypothyroid? Exactly how many times a day and what times do you take your Armour and what is your dose each time? Do you have any data about normal TSH showing hypothyroidism after ablation? I tried and failed three months of Armour, but only took it once a day. Thanks. Can email me at lynneleecassaro AT gmail.com or via FB Messenger

  36. Hi Dr. Childs,

    Thank you so much for your valuable information!

    Do you have any idea what could cause ringing in the ears and ear pain from taking this medication?
    Can that be a symptom of too much hormone?

  37. Thank you Dr. Childs for all the research and insight to thyroid medications. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Disease back in 1990. I’ve tried everything – I felt the best with compound but insurance wouldn’t pay for it so went back to Synthroid. Finally, I tried Nature Throid and I loved it. No roller coasting of dosage and felt soooo much better. Now I’m on Armour – I don’t feel as good and the cost is unreasonable (no insurance – but do use GoodRx) I’m going to try Adthyza. Again, thank you!!

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Harper,

      I hope it works out better than Armour thyroid for you! Thanks for sharing.

  38. Will this Adthyza make my hair come out and break off?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Beverly,

      All thyroid medications have the potential to make hair loss worse, unfortunately, and this includes Adthyza.

  39. Maureen Avatar
    Maureen

    Hi I am have been on Armour Thyroid for years and find this interesting. I did not know armour T had some problems with batches of potency. My question is can either of these meds be taken subliminally and is it ok to split the dosage once in the morning and afternoon. I started to do this to to avoid food interference with absorbtion of the T3…u see I had my thyroid removed. Subliminally the thyroid goes directly into the blood and cells. I am I correct about that?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Maureen,

      Are you referring to the sublingual route (under the tongue)? If so, there are some thyroid medications that can be taken via this route and you can learn more about the pros and cons here: https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/thyroid-medication-sublingually/

  40. Bonnie Avatar
    Bonnie

    I was put on 3-120mg of NP thyroid and my blood pressure shot up to 178/92. It has always been low/normal 110/90. I have been on 4 grains of Armour thyroid for 35+years and did fine until they reformulated it. It was a total waste of money so I switched to NP thyroid after trying synthetic T3 and T4, and every NDT out there to no avail. I sustained a Traumatic brain injury in 2007 and I really think that has something to do with why no thyroid medication works for me at all. I have gained 67 pounds being on some kind of thyroid medication and am wanting/needing to try something else. I thought Adthyza sounded like it was worth a try. The problem is, to get the TSH in range, the T3 & T4 are so far out of range and to get the T3 & T4 in range, the TSH is way out of range. Should just the symptoms be treated as nothing else works?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Bonnie,

      I never advocate for increasing thyroid medication to chase a certain value on a paper as this is just a recipe for an overdose. If you are having trouble obtaining symptomatic control, in the face of sufficient thyroid hormone replacement, then you are most likely missing something that needs to be addressed.

  41. Dear Dr. Childs. I tried having Adthyza refilled and it is not available and no indication it will become available according to my pharmacist. I tried searching for information online but didn’t have any luck. Have you heard anything regarding this issue?

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Bobbi,

      I haven’t heard anything about Adthyza availability, but I will look into it.

  42. I hope someone can help me. This is the first year I realized that the longer one is on the medication the worse the condition of your thyroid. Amazing no doctor tells you that. The greatest down side of this hypothyroidism meds – Levothyroxine/ Synthroid medication is the loss of my mane of beautiful hair which results in progressive balding. The hair sheds from the roots. I need help. The so called Alopecia institutes & their community are not of much help. The only help at the onset was biotin , iron, I believe using some Amino acids in my food, until I had economic, challenges, went off my meds and when I was able to afford it a year and a half later all the hair just started coming down the drains.
    Spent a lot on dermatologist and injections with no improvement
    Later on, I tried I believe Armour and then Tirosint and maybe NP they were not any better and with one, I started bleeding and had to stop it myself quickly before my next doctors appointment despite leaving a message for the doctor. I do not have any peace on this subject; as wigs are not the proper solution for my loss, neither is a shaven head ( as I get sick easily in a cold room if I try to expose my hair). I still have hot flashes now and again after more than a decade of menopause and my hair is still falling off. I am certain this can be reversed, just don’t know what to do.

    1. Dr. Westin Childs Avatar
      Dr. Westin Childs

      Hi Matilda,

      I would recommend reading this article for more information on how to restore your hair:

      https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/treatments-for-thyroid-hair-loss/
      https://restartmed.stagemarketingdemo.com/thyroid-hair-loss/

  43. Marla Norton Avatar
    Marla Norton

    Hi Dr. Childs~I having been taking armour thyroid for 40+ years, first prescribed when I stopped getting my period, so it started it again. They always said once you have been on it, that’s it, for the rest of your life. I am now up to taking 90, 30, and 15. My hair is certainly an issue. I also had covid twice and now Epstein Barr from mono when I coincidentally had the thyroid diagosed when I was 19. All of a sudden the pharamacy can’t get armour, once again, so they gave me Adthyza. My naturopath couldn’t say much about it. I am anxious to switch, even though haven’t been that happy with having to increase thyroid all the time to get my levels up. Any thoughts? Thank you!

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